thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) School swimming lessons in the 80's saw me swallow more unadulterated Chlorine for a lifetime than any chicken could dream of. Plus the pool we used had a layer of solid snot floating on it before it was disturbed by the first brave soul willing to break the crust. We were glad of the chlorine. Edited June 5, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, phart said: Walking into an Anti-trump protest with a MAGA hat like the orange order going past churches. Then our culture/political beliefs are being threatened. Weird how everyone else has rain jackets jumpers hats etc, this dude is kicking about in a short sleeve shirt in the pissing rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, phart said: That's not what happened though. Before I answered your post i went and read everything I could find and watched a couple of videos. He was there with a mate and a group of Trump supporters and had been for a while debating the protestors. " According to a Reuters photographer at the scene, the incident started with the pro- and anti-Trump groups chanting at each other." Now having watched a much longer video, he flings a cup in an even older mans face and tries to kick someone waving bye bye to him. Not sure why this incident is getting so much ire, when an actual really old guy got put on his arse by Anti-Trump supporters. Ofc folk shouldn't be attacking each other in the streets, but it's crazy crazy time. You're being led by not having all the information. I have seen that. It is a video much further away that comes in much later after he had been assaulted. It makes him look worse and the people attacking him better but by that time he is reacting to being attacked. I prefer the video that is right there for some reason. phart I love you man but sorry you are super fucking partisan. Edited June 5, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, thplinth said: I have seen that. It is a video much further away that comes in much later after he had been assaulted. It makes him look worse and the people attacking him better but by that time he is reacting to being attacked. I prefer the video that is right there for some reason. phart I love you man but sorry you are super fucking partisan. Who/what am i a partisan of/for? Edited June 5, 2019 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, thplinth said: I have seen that. It is a video much further away that comes in much later after he had been assaulted. It makes him look worse and the people attacking him better but by that time he is reacting to being attacked. I prefer the video that is right there for some reason. phart I love you man but sorry you are super fucking partisan. So, in essence, you want the video that backs up your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, phart said: Who/what am i a partisan of/for? I have only perceived this as a result of you perceiving me to be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, thplinth said: I have seen that. It is a video much further away that comes in much later after he had been assaulted. It makes him look worse and the people attacking him better but by that time he is reacting to being attacked. I prefer the video that is right there for some reason. phart I love you man but sorry you are super fucking partisan. No it actually predates the other reporters video (Mathew Thompson's), you can see him retrieve his MAGA hat for instance. Then you see the blonde nurse haranguing him. The new video is 27 seconds in when Mathew Thompson's starts. The guy was there with a mate doing media interviews just before it all kicked off. It doesn't come in later that's just straight up false. Also if you listen to the interview he is shouting at folk they are fascists , which predates all that too. Edited June 5, 2019 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, kumnio said: So, in essence, you want the video that backs up your opinion. I want the video that is much closer and shows what actually happened. Not the one that is miles away and makes the victim look like the attacker. I think we are all pretty close to the end of dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just now, thplinth said: I want the video that is much closer and shows what actually happened. Not the one that is miles away and makes the victim look like the attacker. I think we are all pretty close to the end of dialogue. But it isnt, you can see the milkshake get thrown at him, so theres clearly an overlap in both videos. The guy didnt deserve what happened, but he isnt an innocent bystander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The wider video starting at 27 seconds picks up the other video and shows the same events, except this time we can see folk getting kicked at and cups flung in their face. For all we know he could be kicking at the cunt that stole his hat. As opposed to randoml;y lashing out, plus he is surrounded but by his choice he wandered down with his mate to confront the "fascists" cause Donald Trump was elected the President of the Free World and he is there to protect democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Is this not clearly another case of videos being used to backup what people want them to? Was it earlier this year that there was the bunch of Catholic School kids and the Native American, originally the video 'showed' that the poor old guy was accosted, the media were all over it, then a longer video shows that he was at it, trying to get a reaction for quite some time, and all the kids done was stand still. People cant criticise the media for only showing stuff on their 'side' of the argument, then fall for the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 At 8 seconds in a milkshake flies in that misses and its remnants are clearly visible on the ground a few second later... his is being harangued and attacked well before the milkshake that hits him connects. Amazing seeing you defend a mob bully and humiliate one old guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 It only turns violent after he throws the container at an old man, and then kicks out at someone else. Sure he shouldnt have received that treatment, but he was looking for a reaction and is probably glad that he got it. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/trump-supporter-covered-with-milkshake-during-london-protests-1.3915396 That woman is one absolute cunt though, she doesnt want to hear from another white man, what a bellend this is the same video, but runs a bit longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Here he is about 1:45 mins in. Getting interviewed again. Edited June 5, 2019 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Fuck he's also the same guy as part of the Yellow vests who were filmed harassing some Swedish lassie (team handed as well). Man this guy doesn't half pop up in media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, kumnio said: It only turns violent after he throws the container at an old man, and then kicks out at someone else. Sure he shouldnt have received that treatment, but he was looking for a reaction and is probably glad that he got it. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/trump-supporter-covered-with-milkshake-during-london-protests-1.3915396 That woman is one absolute cunt though, she doesnt want to hear from another white man, what a bellend this is the same video, but runs a bit longer. If you had experienced those wankers doing to you what they were doing to that old geezer you would have been rightly cleaving their fucking heads off. I don't care whatever the excuse this shit is 100% unforgivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, thplinth said: If you had experienced those wankers doing to you what they were doing to that old geezer you would have been rightly cleaving their fucking heads off. I don't care whatever the excuse this shit is 100% unforgivable. On both sides, he isnt an innocent bystander caught up in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, phart said: Here he is about 2 mins in. Getting interviewed again. Its fair to say that those people arent Englands best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kumnio said: On both sides, he isnt an innocent bystander caught up in this. He is getting psychically attacked on the streets of the UK as a "NAZI" when it is a complete fiction and an excuse to shut up his quite valid political views. Edited June 5, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) He was physically attacked after he hit a man, and kicked another. As for the Nazi stuff, its obviously nonsense and shouldnt have happened. Have you not complained about free speech before? No one is saying what has happened is justified, merely that he isnt innocent. Edited June 5, 2019 by kumnio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The spin to try and make him out to be a passing grandfather who got jumped by the mob cause of a political position as he just happened to be walking by himself not bothering anybody... He was out protesting against those protesting Trump gave interviews where he could be heard shouting fascist , he's also on Camera as a yellow-vest as part of a mob going on about muslims and climate change to some young Swedish lassie. So one side shouting fascist the other-side shouting Nazi. Some arsehole nicked his hat and he got it back, someone flung a milkshake and it hit his head and he got the bird shit face, he then flung it into an old dude's face and tried to kick someone else, he got shoved a bit then the police escort him and his mate out of the home teams end. It's fucking tribal shit , you're a fascist well you're a nazi. As i said both sides are useless cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, kumnio said: He was physically attacked after he hit an man, and kicked another. As for the Nazi stuff, its obviously nonsense and shouldnt have happened. Have you not complained about free speech before? No one is saying what has happened is justified, merely that he isnt innocent. You cant 'as for the nazi stuff' separate it I am afraid. They are physically attacking an old guy because in their tiny crazed minds they have equated his views with the Nazis. That is what enables all their insanity. You dont wanna know... I get it. But there will be a bill to pay for this eventually. I am now a lone voice on this and so a soon to be gone voice. It is always the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, thplinth said: You cant 'as for the nazi stuff' separate it I am afraid. They are physically attacking an old guy because in their tiny crazed minds they have equated his views with the Nazis. That is what enables all their insanity. You dont wanna know... I get it. But there will be a bill to pay for this eventually. I am now a lone voice on this and so a soon to be gone voice. It is always the way... Yeah and he attacks them cause they are "fascists" What is it when 2 instances occur but you give one side a pass and the other , not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, thplinth said: You cant 'as for the nazi stuff' separate it I am afraid. They are physically attacking an old guy because in their tiny crazed minds they have equated his views with the Nazis. That is what enables all their insanity. You dont wanna know... I get it. But there will be a bill to pay for this eventually. I am now a lone voice on this and so a soon to be gone voice. It is always the way... Have you lost it, what dont I wanna know, Ive criticised the people who are responsible several times. You need to try and be objective, this is quite damning, youve decided that he is the good innocent guy, and everyone else is to blame, despite their being several videos showing otherwise. He put himself in this position, he was looking for a reaction and he got it. He has a history of protesting and being a cunt to people. Objectivity, try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, kumnio said: Have you lost it, what dont I wanna know, Ive criticised the people who are responsible several times. You need to try and be objective, this is quite damning, youve decided that he is the good innocent guy, and everyone else is to blame, despite their being several videos showing otherwise. He put himself in this position, he was looking for a reaction and he got it. He has a history of protesting and being a cunt to people. Objectivity, try it. I am happy with my view versus yours. Objectivity... like you fucking decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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