Och Aye Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) The group sections of the league cup was a flop in the 80's, crowds were pathetic they will be even worse nowadays. It'll be no more than a youth tournament. A 16 team league will have a split so there can be 4 old firm games. That seems to be the Scottish Leagues priority I'm afraid. Edited January 22, 2016 by Och Aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 maybe more folk will go to an individual game if there are less overall games. Who knows. I don't disagree, but our decision makers aren't renowned for their long term thinking! They want to know when the next cheque is dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The cheque dropping is the most important thing. Clubs are run very prudently with most at break even. They do not have money to burn and cannot lose revenue. All these ideas are interesting but until anyone costs then then it's just got air. If people are talking about radical changes then our big problem is we don't have enough big teams. Mergers and franchises won't happen. How about bringing in some new clubs say one from Belfast and one from Dublin? Would double tv audience with potential to create one club cities. Big question on how to handle the existing clubs though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The split is good Aye looks minted when a team finishes 7th has more points than the teams that finish 5th+6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) How about bringing in some new clubs say one from Belfast and one from Dublin?UEFA might have something to say about that!And anyone from Belfast or Dublin who's interested in Scottish football already has a team to support anyway... Edited January 22, 2016 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 The group sections of the league cup was a flop in the 80's, crowds were pathetic they will be even worse nowadays. It'll be no more than a youth tournament. A 16 team league will have a split so there can be 4 old firm games. That seems to be the Scottish Leagues priority I'm afraid. Yip, this why Scottish ftbaw is utter baws, this reliance on the old firm, the self interest. there will be 4 games guaranteed games a season in any shake up that's for sure,for ultimately a bigot fest and relatively poor football. We def need more teams, that has to be a priority- grow the game, spread the wealth. If that means less self indulged old firm games then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I liked the suggestion for a 14 team division with 3 rounds of fixtures =39 games. The top 7 after 28 games could get the extra home game as a little reward.... The Old Firm could get a guaranteed 3 games then along with a highly like cup clash or two. So I'll now suggest a top two divisions of 14 with two nth & sth divisions of 14, all playing 39 lge games That would require 14 new clubs. How about 2 from each of the three junior lges and 4 each from the Highland andlLowland lges.. Edited January 22, 2016 by buckielugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I can't see them going for a system that could mean playing twice at ibrox and once at parkhead or vice versa, sounds silly, but it's true! They'll be shiting themselves at the precedent that the lowest seeded team gets shafted for post-split fixtures if Rangers come up. There could easily be a situation where the OF games should be split 3/1 home/away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Aye looks minted when a team finishes 7th has more points than the teams that finish 5th+6th That's what happens if you play against weaker teams. One season Caley won every game post split and finished 7th with more points than 4th. We wouldn't have had that many points had we been top 6. It adds excitement to the middle of the table and gives you something to aim for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Why do folk think the teuchter league teams would want to join any expanded league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Why do folk think the teuchter league teams would want to join any expanded league. If anything, it's the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 That's what happens if you play against weaker teams. One season Caley won every game post split and finished 7th with more points than 4th. We wouldn't have had that many points had we been top 6. It adds excitement to the middle of the table and gives you something to aim for.No it looks ridiculous looking in. Teams should play every team in a league the same amount of times, that makes it fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 No it looks ridiculous looking in. Teams should play every team in a league the same amount of times, that makes it fair. Looks ridiculous to who? I'd rather some excitement in the middle of the table and in the run in to the split it defienetly adds that where you would have run of the mill mid table games without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think "the split" works. Teams fight to get into Top 6 right up to 30th game of season. Then you have Top 6 playing each other again picking points off each other. Imagine Aberdeen still challenging Celtic at this point. Couple seasons ago Aberdeen v Motherwell for 2nd was huge. Then you have Bottom 6 fighting against relegation with the classic "6 pointers". For my team Partick Thistle our past 2 seasons have went to 2nd last game v Hearts away with last season 3rd last game I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Agree Alan, although the split actually happens after 33 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Well for those who DO like split system, would they like a 14 team division which splits into two 7s.It gives the advantages of the later season excitement for more teams plus ensures equal number of home and away fixtures that others have wanted.26 games for the full division plus 12 games in the split sections.Of course a team will sit out two of the 14 rounds of post split fixtures but that's fairly common with weather postponements etc anyway. It would be arranged that the teams in 7th & 8th at the split would sit out the final fixture day being the teams least likely to be involved in relegation or title issues. Edited January 28, 2016 by buckielugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Well for those who DO like split system, would they like a 14 team division which splits into two 7s. It gives the advantages of the later season excitement for more teams plus ensures equal number of home and away fixtures that others have wanted. 26 games for the full division plus 12 games in the split sections. Of course a team will sit out two of the 14 rounds of post split fixtures but that's fairly common with weather postponements etc anyway. It would be arranged that the teams in 7th & 8th at the split would sit out the final fixture day being the teams least likely to be involved in relegation or title issues. Couple of flaws. One team never sits out for a postponed fixture,it tends to be both teams. Fixtures very rarely get postponed due to weather conditions in April/May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 12 games post split is far too many in my humble opinion. Imagine missing out on 7th on goal difference in mid February and then having another 3 months in the bottom half - safe from relegation but cant go any higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Agreed I wouldn't like to have more than half a dozen post-split games. Kills the season off too early for too many teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) 12 games post split is far too many in my humble opinion. Imagine missing out on 7th on goal difference in mid February and then having another 3 months in the bottom half - safe from relegation but cant go any higher. I sort of agree but that is one of the big plus points put forward for a bigger league. Meaningless games to blood youngsters. For me I like the current system, especially now we have the playoffs. 14 teams would be the absolute maximum IMO Actually it should be split 6-8 for a 14 team league. Top 6 have a couple less games but most of them will make up for that with at least 2 games in Europe Edited January 28, 2016 by dipped flake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I think if a split is being kept then it has to be in the current format. Wasn't it Ross County who would have been in that middle 8 if the 8-8-8 format went ahead and ended up finishing in the top 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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