Scunnered Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Beat it you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 So is this about min alcohol pricing being a good or bad idea or another referendum thread? David Cameron was mooting it but seemed to drop it. Ireland trying the same thing. I can't make me mind up about it. There is a health issue but at same time why is a government imposing what i buy something for when I'm not a problem? http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/regulation-industry/the-case-against-minimum-alcohol-pricing/ If Scotland, rUK and Ireland sorted its social attitude to alcohol and individuals took responsibility for themselves and were less jakey then min pricing wouldn't be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Also curious to know why you feel an Osbourne government would grow support for independence rapidly, when a conservative majority this year doesn't appear to have had that effect? A few reasons formy thoughts well i think, there is a lot of people who voted NO, still saying no as they did vote last year, out of not wanting to say they were wrong. People who voted no 'cos they are Labour, we need a Labour Govt etc t, you will know the sort. really just snp/salmond haters. I have a pal, a strong Blairite and her mind was made up before Referendum was announced..,afterwards when we had the discussion her knowledge was unbelievably poor, she swallowed the Labour line 100% , we are now facing a Tory Govt till 2030. 15 years of Tory because of a no vote, she realises that no that she gave it more thought. .she is 10 years younger than me and didnt have Thatcher and the feeble Labour 50 , the switch manytsocialist did ion the 80's to being an Indy Supporter These people wont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 If Scotland, rUK and Ireland sorted its social attitude to alcohol and individuals took responsibility for themselves and were less jakey then min pricing wouldn't be needed.Absolutely. But a hundred years would pass before that will happen. The Scottish government should be commended for this. Bringing Scotland forward constantly. It was the same with the discrimanation laws with same sex marriage and stamping out bigotry. Previous governments were spineless. At least the current one shows balls to take us into the present day. Minimum pricing on cheap shitty petrol pish will stop the pubs being skelped as they normally feel the wallop with price added on swally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Exactly what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 They might, but the point is they wouldn't have to. My bottle of Black Sheep could still be £1.50 at Tesco. If I was a drinker of cheap cider or alcopops I would be forking out more for definite... No, they wouldn't have but they will. It's just the way these things work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 A few reasons from my thoughts i think, there is a lot of people who voted NO, still saying no as they did vote last year, out of not wanting to say they were wrong. People who voted no 'cos they are Labour, we need a Labour Govt etc, you will know the sort. really just snp/salmond haters.No real logic to their argument, just NO,, I have a pal, a strong Blairite and her mind was made up before Referendum was announced..,afterwards when we had the discussion her knowledge was unbelievably poor, she swallowed the Labour line 100% , we are now facing a Tory Govt till 2030. 15 years of Tory because of a no vote, she realises that now. Still not a Yes, but thought the NO vote would kill the SNP and Milly would walk in, when in fact a yes vote would probably have resulted in 2 Leftish leaning Govt on this Island.she is 10 years younger than me and didnt experience Thatcher and the feeble Labour 50 ,so hasnt lived through the evils of a Conservative Govt. these Labour supporters are the ones who will change. The Thinking Labour vote. There is the demographic, 7/10 over 70's voted NO, so more NO voters will die than YES voters, and the oposite at the other end 70% of under 21's were YES, so more YES coming onto voters role every day. Who would lead the next Better Together? The Tories on their own? There will be 'respected' Labour guys to lead and say No... No one selling their soul for a lordship. Who would lead that campaign? Rowling? Galloway? Mundell? Carmichael? Davidson has something popular about her.. but who else? Nicola in her third term, if she is succesful in her second will lead YES, along with Mairi Black, Tommy Shepard, Phillipa, Nicholson etc etc I honestly didnt think YES would win last year, i hoped, ( i have been an indy supported since 83) Scotland just wasnt ready for it, look how the NO side have reacted since they WON , i fear what they would have done if they lost. The Unionist side cant distinguish between the SNP and Scotland, If Scotland is getting phukked over the SNP say so, and the unionists cant see Scotland is being Phukked over because if the SNP say its happening it must be a lie.( Smith commission is an example) Caralonia winning Indy, will kill off a few bogey men England will probably get sick of us. Independence isnt a pipe dream the way it was 5 years ago, it is no longer a bogey man. I have not thought about what will happen If Corbyn wins.... Seriously.. have you ? I havent factored in England voting us out of EU. Have a Cool Yule Mr Scunnered.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Wow my first post popped up before edit and it wont let me change... so please ignore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 So is this another referendum thread? It's almost Christmas Day lads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Anyone know where is cheapest for a slab of Belhaven Best? Coming up on Sunday and have transport back down so am looking to buy some. My Dads saying £12 for 12 cans in Morissons, but I'm sure that can be bettered. I'll be in Edinburgh over the weekend. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Approved by the Court of Session... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37725251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Better get the cupboards stocked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 UK Government health advisers recommend the introduction of minimum pricing for alcohol... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/01/minimum-alcohol-pricing-gets-backing-of-uk-governments-health-advisers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Toepoke said: UK Government health advisers recommend the introduction of minimum pricing for alcohol... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/01/minimum-alcohol-pricing-gets-backing-of-uk-governments-health-advisers The Cynical would think they let the Scottish Govt do all the dirty Legal and costly work before announcing it themselves... but not me the, Tories would never behave like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 9 hours ago, Toepoke said: UK Government health advisers recommend the introduction of minimum pricing for alcohol... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/01/minimum-alcohol-pricing-gets-backing-of-uk-governments-health-advisers Don't worry, we've had enough of experts. Time to make Alcohol great again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 10 hours ago, Toepoke said: UK Government health advisers recommend the introduction of minimum pricing for alcohol... https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/01/minimum-alcohol-pricing-gets-backing-of-uk-governments-health-advisers Waiting for a named person type Bill coming through soon to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 29 minutes ago, flumax said: Waiting for a named person type Bill coming through soon to The legislation was passed in 2012, its the implementation that has been held up in the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, aaid said: The legislation was passed in 2012, its the implementation that has been held up in the courts. ? UK had a named person act in the wings from 2012? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 50 minutes ago, flumax said: ? UK had a named person act in the wings from 2012? The Scottish legislation on minimum pricing was passed in 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainwull Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Do you no think that all increasing the price of alcohol will do is push more folk into taking drugs? You can spend a tenner and buy a few bottles of Cider that will have you bouncing off the walls all night - or a pill that will do the same. Increasing the price of drink might make some folk (that would normally buy drink) try the drugs instead when their short of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Be a much better world if everyone just took a couple of Es instead of getting bluttered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Welsh Labour once again agreeing with the SNP... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-41682666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I hope this legislation goes through as Scotland culture around drink needs to change, will this help change this? Probably not but its still worth a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 2 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: I hope this legislation goes through as Scotland culture around drink needs to change, will this help change this? Probably not but its still worth a go I could be wrong, but as I understand it, it is not aimed at the present generations, although I'm sure it will catch some, but the up and coming ones. Although I'm not up with the smoking trends, it's a bit like those who smoke, very little of the elder generation will quit, but the youngsters have been deterred through education and the price of ciggies, I assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle do nicely Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 So when the alkies that put their booze before their weans have to pay more, there will be even less money in the purse for food. Well played scottish government that's protecting the vulnerable all right. Guess what? they're addicts! Sounds all proactive and forward thinking though, nice headlines and that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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