Dalgety Bay TA Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 There's a big difference between not supporting them and wanting them to get beaten. I couldn't care less if they qualify as I don't support them or Bosnia. I have sympathy with Ireland after Henry's handball to put them out before, so can't say it'd bother me at all if they made it through. Spot on. I doesn't bother me who qualifies from this tie, or from the other play offs. End of the day, we aren't there and that's the point I stopped caring about the results of other teams in the competition. I would actually question someone's motives if they were Scottish and had a strong view one way or the other on Ireland qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I would actually question someone's motives if they were Scottish and had a strong view one way or the other on Ireland qualifying. I hope Ireland get pumped. I don't want to see two guys, born and raised in Scotland, who chose to play for another country ahead of Scotland, play in the European Championships. It may be bitter and petty but i hope those two phannies lose every game they ever play for Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Who knows, maybe he will, still doesn't make you look any less pathetic. It's only a game, seems pretty natural for some of us wanting Bosnia to win. Personally don't care if you go through or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Just back from Sarajevo this afternoon - Dzeko and the bosnian team were in the departure area of sarajevo airport with us...as their plane to Dublin departed the same time as ours. I cannot compliment Dzeko enough on his courtesy and decency. He took time out to pose for photos with the Irish fans and chat with us despite him relaxing with his teamates. A very humble guy and Absolute Gentleman...top player and top guy...a credit to his country That's something I heard a lot from his time at City - he's supposedly a really nice guy, so much so in fact, it would be great to see him get a hat-trick tonight to take his team to the finals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I can never quite fathom a team being called lucky for scoring late goals or hitting a long ball and scoring a goal. And as above, 4 point from the world champs can't be put down to luck IMO. Anyway Since when did we become so good that we can craw about how teams win a game? I think I would rather we just fecking won them and qualified Well said and sums up my opinion. I don't really get how a winner in the 90th minute can be described as lucky. Was Scotland's win at home to Georgia lucky given the nature of it? Before I travelled to Glasgow last Nov l genuinely thought there was goodwill between the two nations. How wrong was I. A sizeable minority of the TA seem to be the most bitter football fans I've come across who make out that the WGS team plays like Barca under Pep. Rose tinted glasses must be worn by a good few lads on here. As a result, they flat out refuse to complement Ireland whatsoever, instead coming out with "they're pish playing long ball" Look at Robbie Brady, Shane Long against Germany and our goals against Georgia away. All great well worked goals so go back to whatever bigoted town you live in and watch Scotland's great moral victory against Germany from last year. I fully believe a lot of the people wanting Ireland to get "pumped" are sad bigoted arseholes. Sadly Scotland and Northern Ireland seems full of them. Both places have fantastic people but there's an anti Irish sentiment from a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I fully believe a lot of the people wanting Ireland to get "pumped" are sad bigoted arseholes. Sadly Scotland and Northern Ireland seems full of them. Both places have fantastic people but there's an anti Irish sentiment from a lot of people. Or maybe non-bigots want folk like McCarthy and McGeady to get pumped out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Says the guy sitting on a Scotland forum when his team could qualify. Personally never visited another teams message board and if I was to do it it certainly wouldn't be under your circumstances. Idiot Nice hospitable welcome there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Or maybe non-bigots want folk like McCarthy and McGeady to get pumped out? They had a simple choice. They can't help if they feel more Irish than Scottish. I'm sure there's countless people born in England who feel more Scottish than their land of birth, Edited November 16, 2015 by TheBoysinGreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TA Sunshine Appeal Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 We at the Tartan Army Sunshine Appeal have a soft spot for Ye Boys In Green with whom we jointly donated to Aobheinn's Pink Tie when we were over in Dublin. For that reason, at least, we hope that they qualify and enjoy themselves in France next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 They had a simple choice. They can't help if they feel more Irish than Scottish. I'm sure there's countless people born in England who feel more Scottish than their land of birth, If there's folk who are born in England, spend their whole lives in England, have 2 English parents and mostly English grandparents, yet claim to be Scottish, i'd be pretty amazed. I'd also say that England football fans who wanted these guys to lose would be well within their rights. I certainly wouldn't make a khunt of myself by saying folk who wanted them to lose must be bigots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 If there's folk who are born in England, spend their whole lives in England, have 2 English parents and mostly English grandparents, yet claim to be Scottish, i'd be pretty amazed. I'd also say that England football fans who wanted these guys to lose would be well within their rights. I certainly wouldn't make a khunt of myself by saying folk who wanted them to lose must be bigots. Say what you want but there's an anti Irish sentiment in parts of Scotland which no doubt probably influenced Aidan and James becoming more proud of where their family came from. Twice I got called a "Fenian " on the walk home from Parkhead last Nov. I can only imagine the shite those lads had to put up with growing up in Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I don't want to see two guys, born and raised in Scotland, who chose to play for another country ahead of Scotland, play in the European Championships. It may be bitter and petty but i hope those two phannies lose every game they ever play for Ireland They still bother you, and many more, too much. They made their decisions a long time ago, its time to move on and let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoysinGreen Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 To put it into context if Scotland managed to find their way to France you'd be hard pushed to find somebody over who wouldn't be cheering on the Scots. Sadly that's not the case over with a lot of you in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notts Bankie Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Well said and sums up my opinion. I don't really get how a winner in the 90th minute can be described as lucky. Was Scotland's win at home to Georgia lucky given the nature of it? Before I travelled to Glasgow last Nov l genuinely thought there was goodwill between the two nations. How wrong was I. A sizeable minority of the TA seem to be the most bitter football fans I've come across who make out that the WGS team plays like Barca under Pep. Rose tinted glasses must be worn by a good few lads on here. As a result, they flat out refuse to complement Ireland whatsoever, instead coming out with "they're pish playing long ball" Look at Robbie Brady, Shane Long against Germany and our goals against Georgia away. All great well worked goals so go back to whatever bigoted town you live in and watch Scotland's great moral victory against Germany from last year. I fully believe a lot of the people wanting Ireland to get "pumped" are sad bigoted arseholes. Sadly Scotland and Northern Ireland seems full of them. Both places have fantastic people but there's an anti Irish sentiment from a lot of people. Look, you're taking some opinions on the TAMB as somehow being representative of how a lot of people are. I personally can't abide either McGeady and McCarthy; that said, the Irish supporters that I met were simply magnificent in terms of their craic and hospitality. For the tournament's sakes, the Irish support will make a huge difference, and I hope that the boys who I met in both Glasgow and Dublin have a great time if they qualify. You also get a lot of keyboard warriors on here who also, I daresay, wouldn't express their opinions like that with a pint in their hand face-to-face with you. On the contrary, while some may think that (and i genuinely think that McCarthy and McGeady are the main factors in this), they wouldn't be so vociferous. That you are saying Scotland is "full of (sad bigoted arseholes)", sadly may be the case but I would hope not and have never seen significant numbers of said people openly display any anti-ROI sentiment this when supporting the national team, or at least not these days. Keep the Old Firm thing separate, but in terms of the National team, I think some of us are probably a bit sore/envious that Ireland are in the Play Offs and we aren't. I genuinely don't think this is a good Irish team, and man for man, I'd take most of our starting XI ahead of ROI's. But the 4 points you took from Germany - well, we didn't, and you took 6 points off Georgia. Good luck to you on doing that; if we'd have beaten a very mediocre Georgia team then we'd have been playing Bosnia tonight and you wouldn't. C'est la vie. That's football. Life's a bit short to be crabbit and soor - and I would be more interested in a competition with ROI in it rather than Bosnia HZ. Good luck tonight and hopefully enjoy your tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Say what you want but there's an anti Irish sentiment in parts of Scotland which no doubt probably influenced Aidan and James becoming more proud of where their family came from. Twice I got called a "Fenian ######" on the walk home from Parkhead last Nov. I can only imagine the shite those lads had to put up with growing up in Scotland. I've no doubt there are folk in Scotland who are anti-Irish and/or anti-Catholic. It's a very tiny number of folk though and it's something which is becoming less and less prevalent. I value my 29 years experience in living here a bit higher than your anecdotal evidence of encountering a couple of scumbags, i'm afraid. In future, you'd be wise not to brand folk who want Ireland to lose as bigots. All that does is reflect your own intolerances and prejudices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggycoo Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Like many have no interest in the tie what so ever and couldn't care less if Ireland qualify or not, all I worry about is Scotland failed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 A bigot for wanting Ireland to lose? Haha ffs Your team essentially put us out, it's called football rilvary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Loon Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Got no issues with the Irish lads at all, good luck to you wish it was us though. If you qualify enjoy France and be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Well said and sums up my opinion. I don't really get how a winner in the 90th minute can be described as lucky. Was Scotland's win at home to Georgia lucky given the nature of it? Before I travelled to Glasgow last Nov l genuinely thought there was goodwill between the two nations. How wrong was I. A sizeable minority of the TA seem to be the most bitter football fans I've come across who make out that the WGS team plays like Barca under Pep. Rose tinted glasses must be worn by a good few lads on here. As a result, they flat out refuse to complement Ireland whatsoever, instead coming out with "they're pish playing long ball" Look at Robbie Brady, Shane Long against Germany and our goals against Georgia away. All great well worked goals so go back to whatever bigoted town you live in and watch Scotland's great moral victory against Germany from last year. I fully believe a lot of the people wanting Ireland to get "pumped" are sad bigoted arseholes. Sadly Scotland and Northern Ireland seems full of them. Both places have fantastic people but there's an anti Irish sentiment from a lot of people. In my opinion, more people on here would be happy enough for Ireland to qualify if they never beat us to 3rd place in the group. If you had come from any other group, there would be more well wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Personal insults now. Top man. If you don't want to visit forums for other teams, good for you. I like reading other views from other sets of fans. Is that really a big deal? If I find a point of view particularly sad or pathetic, particularly when it relates to Ireland, I might make my feelings known. Now you or anyone else are free to ignore it or, like you have, throw out an insult. Fine, no problem. The implication though seems to be that I am the pathetic one for visiting your forum simply on the basis that Ireland still might qualify and I cannot fathom how one can come to that conclusion? I'm simply sitting around on a Sunday afternoon, still somewhat delicate from Bosnia and browsing the internet. Now if I had gone straight from Sarajevo to Glasgow and sat in a bar full of Scottish fans you might have a point. I don't think typing in a website address and having a read of what is written comes even remotely close to that. Also (and perhaps your computer doesn't have this capability) you can be on more than website at once. Rest assured though, I won't be on here tomorrow night, Ill be roaring on our lads to (hopefully) qualification to France. If we fail, well congratulations in advance to you and all the other bitter Scots. Once again, top man I'm no bitter, I'd have supported Bosnia anyway, never support any of the other home nations or Ireland. My point was no need to come and gloat. As for insults dry yer eyes, Im sure you've been called worse with a lot more malice. Enjoy the "football" tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Nice hospitable welcome there. Glad you liked it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I want Ireland to lose, for the sole reason that I don't want to be the only ones sitting at home next summer They deserve to be in the playoffs ahead of us, over the whole group they got more points. Doesn't stop me wanting Bosnia to win. Should they go on and qualify then I'll be happy for the Irish folk i know, and hope they all have a great time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I want Ireland to lose, for the sole reason that I don't want to be the only ones sitting at home next summer They deserve to be in the playoffs ahead of us, over the whole group they got more points. Doesn't stop me wanting Bosnia to win. Should they go on and qualify then I'll be happy for the Irish folk i know, and hope they all have a great time The whole things been fked since the fkin Welsh qualified. Utter embarrassment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 A bigot for wanting Ireland to lose? Haha ffs Your team essentially put us out, it's called football rilvary Most Irish football fans have a different (or lack of) understanding of football rivalry though. Remember, most of them (not necessarily the Irish posters on here) do their supporting from barstools. Rivalries among the fans aren't as intense. I've never seen any of my Irish Man Utd or Arsenal supporting mates making fun of their rival teams bad results in Europe the way i've seen Scottish Rangers/Celtic/Aberdeen supporting pals laugh at their rivals being papped out of Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Say what you want but there's an anti Irish sentiment in parts of Scotland which no doubt probably influenced Aidan and James becoming more proud of where their family came from. Twice I got called a "Fenian ######" on the walk home from Parkhead last Nov. I can only imagine the shite those lads had to put up with growing up in Scotland. what as Scots in Scotland ? how would anyone have known they were anything other than Scottish - even McCarthy didnt know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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