adamntg Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 For example lets say it was suggested that 50% of prize money from Europe (and internationals if that applies) went into a central pot to fund an explosion of quality 3/4G pitches across the country you'd find the clubs who regularly qualify for Europe would be against that - only a theoretical example but its that sort of thinking which could help produce more players of a higher standard. I seriously doubt any Scottish club are making any money from Europe other than Celtic and it will be interesting to see how much if anything from this campaign. Sorry to piss all over your idea but its not a very good one is it? I'm sure Celtic have made many millions from Europe this year. Even a small fraction of that would build half a dozen new pitches round the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Because they have, on a whole, been dreadful. Away ye go. The colour of their skin is irrelevant. Wasn't Larsson black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Away ye go. The colour of their skin is irrelevant. Wasn't Larsson black? They made a fortune out of Wanyama too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Pleasing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I remember cheering on Aberdeen when they won the cup winners cup I was a young lad they were Scottish that was it . I also remember how good they n Dundee Utd where (ALWAYS A GOOD GAME) when they came down toPARKHEID) then European nights standing at the bus stop on they way home from PARKHEID how did Rangers,Dundee Utd & Aberdeen get on hoping we got closer than them we're in a situ where Scottish football s good for outrun a coupon on n that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 That's ment to say for a coupon that it SCOTTISH FOOTBALL IS PISH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I remember cheering on Aberdeen when they won the cup winners cup I was a young lad they were Scottish that was it . I also remember how good they n Dundee Utd where (ALWAYS A GOOD GAME) when they came down toPARKHEID) then European nights standing at the bus stop on they way home from PARKHEID how did Rangers,Dundee Utd & Aberdeen get on hoping we got closer than them we're in a situ where Scottish football s good for outrun a coupon on n that's itThat would be back when certain Scottish teams were proud to be Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 scittosh players who played for Scottish teams where did we go wrong as a Celtic Glaswegian A certain team ####ed it up trying there hardiest to emulate their rivals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcs Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Not trolling just my point of veiw as a Celtic fan with a Rangers fan as a Mrs both Scotland daft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Looking forward to Superscoreboard later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 That would be back when certain Scottish teams were proud to be Scottish. Not really that for me, more schadenfreude at Celtic's discomfort given how grotesquely bloated they've become in comparison to the rest of Scottiah football. They sneer at the rest of us, the least we can do is laugh at them when their trousers fall down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 and the non-black players? The non-black manager? A lot of them are pish. What I'm saying is that we seem to buy black players whom play in, normally centre of defence, who are pish. It's a coincidence that they are all crap, why are none of them good solid players? None since Elliot who was fantastic. Even VVD had his moments. For those who wish to suggest I'm playing the racial card fire on, it'll not be like Tamb to jump to incorrect conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 ame="slasher" post="236669" timestamp="1446756592"] I'm sure Celtic have made many millions from Europe this year. Even a small fraction of that would build half a dozen new pitches round the country. So yet again you want us to fund the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 A lot of them are pish. What I'm saying is that we seem to buy black players whom play in, normally centre of defence, who are pish. It's a coincidence that they are all crap, why are none of them good solid players? None since Elliot who was fantastic. Even VVD had his moments. For those who wish to suggest I'm playing the racial card fire on, it'll not be like Tamb to jump to incorrect conclusions. Denayer was a class act. Your POTY last season IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 So yet again you want us to fund the rest? Yes and no. Given your club is awarded vastly disproportionate amounts of money for minor successes in Europe which has completely destabilised the game in Scotland to the point that the league is no longer a competition, and that this money means that the situation is in place in perpetuity, I'm really only suggesting a way of levelling the playing field a little, while giving our next generation of young players a chance to develop so you don't get pumped by teams from the Arctic Circle in the consolation cup. But, if you're happy the way things are, just forget about it. If it was down to me, there would be a windfall tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I'd like to point out that Viking Stavanger (above Molde in the Norwegian league) have regularly been Aberdeen's bitch over the last few years, and Deecie has the trophy winning photos to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Best of a bad bunch although many on here would say he was beyond bad too. So how come he's now being lauded in the EPL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes and no. Given your club is awarded vastly disproportionate amounts of money for minor successes in Europe which has completely destabilised the game in Scotland to the point that the league is no longer a competition, and that this money means that the situation is in place in perpetuity, I'm really only suggesting a way of levelling the playing field a little, while giving our next generation of young players a chance to develop so you don't get pumped by teams from the Arctic Circle in the consolation cup. But, if you're happy the way things are, just forget about it. If it was down to me, there would be a windfall tax. I'm quite happy to pay a bit more as long as its proportional but there's an argument to say Celtic are being penalised simply for being well run and being bigger. Incidentally you get £1.74m for group stage participation in the Europa league. Not a lot really is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappafan Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Re our defenders, it seems our policy to sign black defenders who can't actually defend, can't pass and look extremely nervous on the ball. It's been a policy for a good few years now. Spot the dafty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Denayer was a class act. Your POTY last season IMO. There's one in how many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) A lot of them are pish. What I'm saying is that we seem to buy black players whom play in, normally centre of defence, who are pish. It's a coincidence that they are all crap, why are none of them good solid players? None since Elliot who was fantastic. Even VVD had his moments. For those who wish to suggest I'm playing the racial card fire on, it'll not be like Tamb to jump to incorrect conclusions. I get what you mean. Edited November 6, 2015 by Debian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) So yet again you want us to fund the rest? This thread seems to have got a bit stuck on my 'theoretical' example. It was just that an example of the sort of more radical thinking which I think is required. Your response backs up my point that self interest is alive and kicking in Scottish football and is a major factor in holding back any sort of meaningful change. It doesn't mean just 1 club funding the rest but it surely stands to reason that any money based solution will almost certainly have to come from within the game. Edited November 6, 2015 by AberdeenAngus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Yes and no. Given your club is awarded vastly disproportionate amounts of money for minor successes in Europe which has completely destabilised the game in Scotland to the point that the league is no longer a competition, and that this money means that the situation is in place in perpetuity, I'm really only suggesting a way of levelling the playing field a little, while giving our next generation of young players a chance to develop so you don't get pumped by teams from the Arctic Circle in the consolation cup. But, if you're happy the way things are, just forget about it. If it was down to me, there would be a windfall tax. It's our fault that we get rewarded for being the best in our country and get rewarded financially? Another thing, why do folk in Scotland look diwn on teams from the 'Artic Circle', countries like Norway, Sweden, Denmark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) I'm quite happy to pay a bit more as long as its proportional but there's an argument to say Celtic are being penalised simply for being well run and being bigger. Incidentally you get £1.74m for group stage participation in the Europa league. Not a lot really is it? Not to Celtic it's not. For Dundee Utd that would be a quarter of their entire turnover, simply for qualifying.And Celtic "qualified" by losing. It's insane. Edited November 6, 2015 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 This thread seems to have got a bit stuck on my 'theoretical' example. It was just that an example of the sort of more radical thinking which I think is required. Your response backs up my point that self interest is alive and kicking in Scottish football and is a major factor in holding back any sort of meaningful change. It doesn't mean just 1 club funding the rest but it surely stands to reason that any money based solution will almost certainly have to come from within the game. I would agree to a 50/50 split of gate money but only if the TV deal was ripped up and clubs were allowed to sell there own TV rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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