EddardStark Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Instead of berrating Alan (for being Alan) People should use this thread to post examples of the anti scottish bigotry that can be found littered around the comments sections of every major english newspaper. I'll kick it off... Comment in the Daily Mail this morning... you simply cannot be the original plinth.. he would never lower himself to this sort of post. He had the qualities of Hannibal Lecter without the serial killer tendencies. You on the other hand :wink2: :wink2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 My mate in Northumberland on facebook. (not to me).....'.I love the food in Scotland, a chip on each shoulder' He also said 'we are rebuilding Hadrian's Wall here in Northumberland'......I pointed out that he lives NORTH of the wall and welcomed him to Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 BTW the hit piece in the Daily Mail on Salmond is quite something to behold...Did losing an English girl's love turn Salmond into a raging Nat? QUENTIN LETTS delves into the mind of the man who wants to destroy the UK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754118/Did-losing-English-girl-s-love-turn-Salmond-raging-Nat-QUENTIN-LETTS-delves-mind-man-destroy-UK.html#ixzz3DB6173Ix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Heartfelt letters from ordinary people to Scotland How about this? Damn right I'd be voting Yes. Big chance. I've never understood the sneering at Socialism. Seems to me, as humans, that's exactly what we should be aiming for; society, humanity, belonging, community, brethren, sharing. There's plenty to go around. Done right, you've the perfect opportunity to fu*ck the corporate establishment off, piss off the Lords and Gentry, and do your thing. No Tories in Scotland forever? Blimey.... As Ian Wright once said "You'd be creaming" I'd lose Salmond at the first op though, he ain't the one. All the best! (not to imply DaveinLondon is ordinary!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 BTW the hit piece in the Daily Mail on Salmond is quite something to behold... Did losing an English girl's love turn Salmond into a raging Nat? QUENTIN LETTS delves into the mind of the man who wants to destroy the UK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754118/Did-losing-English-girl-s-love-turn-Salmond-raging-Nat-QUENTIN-LETTS-delves-mind-man-destroy-UK.html#ixzz3DB6173Ix Seriously, that passes for journalism? Fuckin laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 you simply cannot be the original plinth.. he would never lower himself to this sort of post. He had the qualities of Hannibal Lecter without the serial killer tendencies. You on the other hand :wink2: :wink2: So glad they got rid of PGB for being humourless and club oriented only to reinstate you Bewlay. BTW I see you've been here 5 minutes and managed to make over 8000 posts. Neil_r will be apoplectic so I'd watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Grumpyoldman, Maldon, United Kingdom, moments ago That 70% of Britons want Scotland to remain part of the UK - that I do not believe. In fact all of my acquaintances couldn't give a flying fig what happens. All we know is the Scots get free prescriptions and do not pay to park at hospitals. All this scaremongering is quite amusing! After this is will UKIP's turn to take some propaganda crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Tony, Cheshire, United Kingdom, 6 minutes ago Everyone I know would vote to get rid of Scotland and rebuild hadrians wall. So I question this polls results. OohErr, Fleetwood, United Kingdom, 11 minutes ago We don't need Scotland. Good riddance. I can't wait to see them crash and burn. Full-time tax payer, Once - Gt Britain, 59 minutes ago Whilst living abroad I flew home with my then 17 month old son. Our flight was diverted from LHR to Edinburgh due to bad weather and we had to catch a train from Edinburgh back down to London. My son was a little star, didn't complain once while waiting in the queue for the train and when we got on he fell into a deep sleep, at which point a very drunk and dirty scotsman decided to sit down by us and make it his mission to disturb me and my son (and was so noisy he disturbed everyone in the carriage) and wake my little boy "because he looked cute and would be fun to play with" by then it was nearly 1am and I was near the end of my weary tether too, so a very kind old gentleman got the drunk to go with him to find the train bar. He left him there then returned to his own seat further down from me. At London the drunk was in the corridor and people were stepping over him to get off the train. I won't go again! I say vote YES and make RBS pay back the bailout money we gave them. nd then we have this little gem in response to the headline "Seven in 10 English want Scots to remain part of the UK...and most think THEY should have a vote, reveals Mail poll" Alex, edinburgh, United Kingdom, 12 minutes ago If this headline is true, why so much hatred posted on comment boards such as this? Why indeed Alan, sorry Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Steve, Norfolk England, United Kingdom, 1 hour ago 70% of the English want the Scots to remain part of the UK, Ha ha ha ha ha Come off of it DM everybody I have asked about it have all said the Scots should clear off, but in far worst language than that. You are making this up. I do not believe it you mean 70% of the English want the Scots to ___ off. Sunshine, UK, United Kingdom, 10 hours ago Most of the English people i know, would rather the Scots went, fell over and came crying to come back. I'm fed up with hearing how bad the Scots have it with their free higher educations, and free prescriptions - stop your whinging! off you go, i'll close the door behind you. (Although rant over, most Scots i know are lovely people) I could literally keep this up all day, the material is endless, endless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) Jeezo, we've certainly pushed their button! Thankfully I've not witnessed anywhere near the ignorance (posted above) in Norfolk - Steve (above) clearly doesn't live near me Remember though, they're only used to seeing our referendum (and MSM painted failings) in full technicolor bias - As well as being aware of a few token Scots within their own area that are more than happy to roll over and have their tummy tickled. The latter can be associated with/highlighted by the one or two apologists on here. Edited September 13, 2014 by Redz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 It has been like this for months and months and months now. Every paper every article you can find comments similar or worse. It was always there but the referendum has brought it to the surface in a big way. We are constantly fed that scots are anti english but the reality is you cannot find it, what you find instead is vast fields of anti scottish commentary. This referendum has revealed that it is not us with a problem with the English but the English who have the problem with us. Fangs pouring venom for having the temerity to consider independence. I wish Kernie was here to defend it but I don't think even he could. I think this aspect has probably taken most of us aback more than anything else. There is no going back from this now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 .Did losing an English girl's love turn Salmond into a raging Nat? QUENTIN LETTS delves into the mind of the man who wants to destroy the UK http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2754118/Did-losing-English-girl-s-love-turn-Salmond-raging-Nat-QUENTIN-LETTS-delves-mind-man-destroy-UK.html#ixzz3DB6173Ix thats from kevin bridges stand up act last week he wants independece cause he got a knockback off an english girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Aye, that's the bit I'm not really getting. Being the subsidy junkies we are you'd expect them to be really pleased we are considering independence. It appears quite the opposite in fact. Their general portrayal of joined up thinking is FUBAR as far as the comments are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 This referendum has revealed that it is not us with a problem with the English but the English who have the problem with us. Fangs pouring venom for having the temerity to consider independence. I wish Kernie was here to defend it but I don't think even he could. Dunno what Kernie would say, but one of his many insights was that it is the English identity that has suffered most over the past 300 years as it has been blended almost faultlessly with the British identity. Therefore, for many, an attack on the concept of 'Britishness' is a boot in their psyche's g'nads. Plus, anyone posting comments on a newspaper website is by definition a bit of a pillock. There are many English who will have a problem with Scottish independence, but equally there are many who will welcome it - take DiL's thread today - or at least wish it well. I don't live there, but have been surprised during visits over the past couple of years that the referendum was barely registering. The complacency of the political establishment meant that there was no discussion south of the border, so it's suddenly come as a bit of a shock. Which is quite funny, really. There'll be a brief eruption of wounded bile at Scotland's infidelity, shamelessly fueled by newspapers ever eager to sell more copies. There'll be a bit of a boycott of Scottish produce, which probably won't last long - especially as the packaging's 'origin' will swiftly change to 'EU' in small letters and the saltire will disappear - and things will settle down after a bit with luck. The maturity or otherwise of those conducting the negotiations will be a factor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 And these comments all passed moderation. A mix from the Telegraph and the DM. Can you imagine what the ones that failed moderation were like? Being on the receiving end of all of this it feels much more deep rooted than just this referendum. Kernie was all over any anti englishness on here but there was never anything even remotely approaching these levels of anti scottishness that we are seeing in the english press. Personally I have had enough hearing about anti englishness from the NO camp when all this hatred in the english press gets effectively ignored and downplayed. But I agree they are in a minority and most English people are not haters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Yes I think them letters are real. Yes I think the British media are against us I could go on.... I have lived in England for thirty years now and in general they think Scotland is a lovely place not a country. I stand by this apart from opinion polls. WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THIS.. Unless we start getting out and telling friends and family to do the right thing. Forget about how many flags you have saw in windows/shops etc. This is real get on the phone now or go round and see people otherwise in my opinion we are f**ked. LONG LIVE SCOTLAND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsheep Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Sounds like a good case for Federalism for Scotland. I share this vision. Also SNP want to be a full part of NATO which in my opinion would open them up to a lot of American influence. The Iraq war is a bad example. This is accepted as a terrible decision in hindsight. Didn't need hindsight for that, it was a'terrible decision' the second it was made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Once, I also dreamt of an independent Scotland, the master of its own destiny. I voted SNP, cheered Scotland and anyone opposing England. Then I moved to England in the late 1990s, as an ‘economic refugee’. To my discomfort, I found the English (aside from their annoying habit of calling Britain ‘England’) were just like us: worried about their kids’ education; lamenting summer weather; concerned with their own daily challenges; despairing of (and largely unrepresented by) their government. Now I fervently hope that Scotland will stay. Apart from anything else Scotland is the balance for the Union; the five million counterweight for the 60 million. The pricking conscience. The innovator. The socialist. The ballast. Allow me to translate Once I believed in Independence and was a member of the SNP. Then I moved down to England, and realised I was actually just a racist. Vote No. ps some utter garbage about how 5m scots 'balance' 60m english. Ehhh no they can't one is over 10 times the size of the other, it is physically impossible, and that is one huge reason why we are having this vote, a nation of 5m can never be partners or in a union with a nation of 60m, that is really just a takeover, even the city would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 "From Cornwall to Aberdeenshire, these islands are criss-crossed with more common interests, shared history and future prospects than can ever be divided by a line on a map." Exactly, so why so hung up about the line on the map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 "From Cornwall to Aberdeenshire, these islands are criss-crossed with more common interests, shared history and future prospects than can ever be divided by a line on a map." Exactly, so why so hung up about the line on the map? Haha exactly. None of the above needs a political union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Churchill once proclaimed that, ‘Of all the small nations of this earth, perhaps only the ancient Greeks surpass the Scots in their contribution to mankind.’ I have no doubt that he’d affirm that this is only the case as a consequence of the Act of Union. Rule Britannia! I say, and to quote the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards at Waterloo (the most British of all battles), ‘Scotland Forever!’ Scotland, it’s time to come home. So go — if you must. Kent will follow you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Wales 'yes' rally http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-29189446 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The Iraq war is a bad example. This is accepted as a terrible decision in hindsight. It's not a bad example. It's a great example. Canada said NO to America BEFORE they invaded, whereas Scotland had no choice but to get strung along with Britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Here is another love letter to Scotland, this time from the Independent. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/scottish-independence/scottish-independence-love-letters-to-scotland-from-writers-who-want-it-to-stay-9730335.html A bit pathetic. It is mainly "Some good things about Scotland, and so, why I'd rather they didn't leave" rather than why it would be better for Scotland to stay. There is a curious sense of possession going on here: when referring to 'our country'. This is as if being British entitles them to possess and retain Scotland, in a way that they wouldn't expect an EU citizen to possess Britain, just because it's part of the EU. One of the contributors is the deputy managing editor of the Independent. So, he wants Scotland to stay. So, helps turn the Indy into a BT propaganda sheet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Aye, that's the bit I'm not really getting. Being the subsidy junkies we are you'd expect them to be really pleased we are considering independence. It appears quite the opposite in fact. Their general portrayal of joined up thinking is FUBAR as far as the comments are concerned. I know it is strange isn't it. We (the sponger jocks) are a net liability to UK PLc. So surely the smart thing to do is to cut loose the dead weight and let us go to the bottom. Yet bizarrely they are all running around in a state of utter fukking panic. I mean really shitting themselves, fountains of shite flowing out their pants right now. Hmmmm... it almost as if they think they are losing something of value. You don't think they could be lying to us do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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