Ormond Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Americans are the only country in the developed world who do not have the intelligence to deal with the horrific gun crime. You don't fight fire with fire. Everyone else sees that except this country. Yes there will always be isolated incidents in other countries but this country it happens every hour of everyday. In Chicago alone every single weekend there are dozens of shootings recorded. That's only the recorded ones. It should be a national disgrace but the idiots here really believe that the way forward is to pile more guns at the problem. It's in their mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 America seems addicted. I thought Sandy Hook might have been a turning point. No idea what it will take for them to give up their guns and for more innocent victims to perish. but it cant just be about the availability of guns though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 the culture needed to let your government go parading around the world since the 50's, assassination , coup's, massacring , changing governments, invading, arming proxies, encouraging civil wars, bombing medicine plants, supplying arms to killers etc, probably has some down sides i imagine, sanctity of life being one of the causalities... sorry collateral damage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 The easy availability of firearms is definitely a contributing factor but as some have already pointed out, there must be more to it than that. Unfortunately for the US this will probably never change due to the high profile of gun advocates in politics and media. And even more worrying is that most people don't think there is a problem there. I remember a few years back watching a guy buy a handgun at a shooting range like you'd buy a beer. Literally a minute or 2 and the guy flashed his driving licence to the sales person who then asked "What kind of ammunition would you like? Practice or defensive?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 https://vid.me/45na?fb_ref=Default Stewart points out that the contradiction in keeping americans safe by pointing out the efforts internationally compared with internally. Looking at that part it shows that the excursions overseas aren't really all about keeping Americans safe as the actions at home show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Theyve got 3 year olds shooting and killing time after time. ...there is no hope for their screwed up country. ..one of the worst societies on the planet. And yet on a number of levels we seem intent on aping their culture. Thankfully, their gun culture isn't one of them. Having 'the right to keep and bear arms' in a country's constitution possibly made sense in the late 1700s, especially when you are attempting to forcibly extricate your country from the British Empire at a time when it is strarting to hit its stride, and when you share your country with large, lethal wild animals and other human beings you are in the process of oppressing yourself. In a modern, wealthy, highly developed democratic country, however, is it really still necessary? Edited June 19, 2015 by scotlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalka Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/That is a stunning piece of satire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm pretty sure this will turn out to be less about hate crime per se and more about mental ill health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 That is a stunning piece of satire. WWN are brilliant at this sort of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yup the media was itching to come out and say hate crime as well as the cops. At times there almost seems to be an agenda to push up racial tensions. For me the best way to reduce these massacres and keep the gun lovers happy is to control the ammo. Along the lines of not selling openly in shops, limit on how much you can buy, return of empty cartrages etc. That sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 It's a country full of cockwombles. shoot first ask questions later and thats the trained army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Was thinking Obama's statement was pretty strong but then remembered that he is a lamw duck and can say the words he should have done 6 or 7 years ago. Even then would any president have the baws to actually go further than words? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Was thinking Obama's statement was pretty strong but then remembered that he is a lamw duck and can say the words he should have done 6 or 7 years ago. Even then would any president have the baws to actually go further than words? He's doing a lot of that recently. Not just on the gun issue. Obviously he doesn't have to worry about any elections now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I'm pretty sure this will turn out to be less about hate crime per se and more about mental ill health. I think that's the problem all over America.It's probably cheaper for a gun than to see a doctor and get medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think that's the problem all over America.It's probably cheaper for a gun than to see a doctor and get medication. Agreed. You can get guns in Walmart but probably restricted on paracetamol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Agreed. You can get guns in Walmart but probably restricted on paracetamol. It's not the restrictions on medicine that are the problem but the cost. Some of the basic stuff is extortionate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Hope this doesn't result in blaming mental health or meds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Nah. It's the mental health practitioners who are to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I blame the children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 It's not the restrictions on medicine that are the problem but the cost. Some of the basic stuff is extortionate. I maybe wasn't clear. I was just saying how ludicrous it is that over there you can buy guns in a supermarket whilst we have restrictions on how much paracetamol you can buy in one transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Hope this doesn't result in blaming mental health or meds Not in the U.S., don't think they recognise mental ill health exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 Not in the U.S., don't think they recognise mental ill health exists. Until it's a excuse to gun crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Until it's a excuse to gun crime As in, " I need my gun cuz of all the crazy MFs out there" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 7 things the republicans have blamed it on apart from race http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/seven-things-republicans-have-blamed-the-charleston-massacre-on-apart-from-race--bk1LiXKibl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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