Doakes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Last 14 games - form Scotland WWDWWDLWDWLWWW Ireland DLLDDLWWWDLWDD Gordon Strachan Played 20 - Won 11 - Drawn 3 - Lost 6 (Win% = 55%) Martin O'Neill Played 15 - Won 5 - Drawn 6 - Lost 4 (Win% = 33.33%) Edited June 8, 2015 by Doakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Last 14 games - form Scotland WWDWWDLWDWLWWW Ireland DLLDDLWWWDLWDD That's all games, aye? Have you got a similar stat for home qualifiers only? Edited June 8, 2015 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The irish do have the odd blip at home , didn't Germany beat them 5 or 6 -1 in Dublin not too long ago Aye, 6-1. They have also lost at home to Sweden, Russia and that play off against France. But I don't think they have lost at home to any team as pish a s Wales. I think their home form in qualifiers must be better than ours. But they do seem to draw a lot of games which makes me think we will get a draw. A draw would do me. They are hard to beat in Dublin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's all games, aye? Have you got a similar stat for home qualifiers only? Aye, including friendlies I'll see if I can dig that up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Aye, 6-1. They have also lost at home to Sweden, Russia and that play off against France. But I don't think they have lost at home to any team as pish a s Wales. I think their home form in qualifiers must be better than ours. But they do seem to draw a lot of games which makes me think we will get a draw. A draw would do me. They are hard to beat in Dublin.Wales aren't pish anymore. I reckon they're gonna stroll to France next year. Some crackin players.I agree a draw is the most likely outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Wales aren't pish anymore. Aye, that's true. They were pretty pish before the gubbed us twice though. I reckon us giving them 6 easy points was the confidence boost they needed just at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 If we win, we'll be pot 2. If we don't, we'll be in pot 3. If Ireland win, they'll be pot 3. If they don't, we'll be in pot 4. A win, for both teams is a massive boost to both their Euro 2016 and their World Cup 2018 chances. Make no mistake; this is our biggest match since Italy at Hampden is November 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's all games, aye? Have you got a similar stat for home qualifiers only? SCOTLAND (competitive matches since 2012) DDLLLLWLWWLWDWW IRELAND (competitive matches since 2012) LLLWLWDDWLLLWWWDLD Ireland have a few more since they qualified for Euro 2012 Our away form has been pretty poor, but similar-ish to Ireland SCOTLAND AWAY (since 2012) LLLWWLD IRELAND AWAY (since 2012) WDLLWDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 So our away form is fairly close to Ireland's home form. Another indicator that this is going to be a tight one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Tartan Army (Borders) Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 If we win, we'll be pot 2. If we don't, we'll be in pot 3. If Ireland win, they'll be pot 3. If they don't, we'll be in pot 4. A win, for both teams is a massive boost to both their Euro 2016 and their World Cup 2018 chances. Make no mistake; this is our biggest match since Italy at Hampden is November 2007. Did you mean if Ireland don't win they are in pot 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Are these the likely line-ups? IRELAND Westwood Coleman...O'Shea...Wilson...Brady McCarthy...Whelan Walters......Hoolahan......McGeady Long v Fletcher Anya......Naismith......Maloney Brown...Mulgrew Robertson...Greer...Martin...Hutton Marshall SCOTLAND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Did you mean if Ireland don't win they are in pot 4? Yes, that's what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Are these the likely line-ups?dont think your far off with those teams , we might play whittaker instead of robertson biut i hope not IRELAND Westwood Coleman...O'Shea...Wilson...Brady McCarthy...Whelan Walters......Hoolahan......McGeady Long v Fletcher Anya......Naismith......Maloney Brown...Mulgrew Robertson...Greer...Martin...Hutton Marshall SCOTLAND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think there are 5 decisions to make for Strachan. Hutton, Martin, Brown, Anya, Naismith and S.Fletcher will start, if fit. 1. Goalkeeper. Marshall v Gordon. They are both good options and I'm happy with either although I think Gordon is slightly better. 2. Left-Back. Robertson v Whittaker v Forsyth. Again, there isn't much in it and it's whether we go for experience or raw talent. I'm hoping for Robertson. 3. Centre-Back. Berra v Greer v Mulgrew to partner Martin. I think that Greer is going to get the nod although I'd go with Berra. 4. Holding-Midfield. Mulgrew v McArthur v D.Fletcher v Morrison. I personally think Strachan will go with Mulgrew because it's like having a 3rd centre-back at corners and free-kicks. 5. Right-Wing. Maloney v Ritchie v Forrest. Maloney has been our star so far, Ritchie is flavour of the month and Forrest has the pace that Strachan wants. Tough call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I think there are 5 decisions to make for Strachan. Hutton, Martin, Brown, Anya, Naismith and S.Fletcher will start, if fit. 1. Goalkeeper. Marshall v Gordon. They are both good options and I'm happy with either although I think Gordon is slightly better. 2. Left-Back. Robertson v Whittaker v Forsyth. Again, there isn't much in it and it's whether we go for experience or raw talent. I'm hoping for Robertson. 3. Centre-Back. Berra v Greer v Mulgrew to partner Martin. I think that Greer is going to get the nod although I'd go with Berra. 4. Holding-Midfield. Mulgrew v McArthur v D.Fletcher v Morrison. I personally think Strachan will go with Mulgrew because it's like having a 3rd centre-back at corners and free-kicks. 5. Right-Wing. Maloney v Ritchie v Forrest. Maloney has been our star so far, Ritchie is flavour of the month and Forrest has the pace that Strachan wants. Tough call. Good post. I agree with you with regards to keepers but I think Marshall will get the nod. I agree with you on left-back as well and depends how confident Gorden is feeling. It wouldn't surprise me if Whittaker gets the nod. On centre-backs Berra or Greer well they are much of a muchness but may just opt for Berra's experience. I'd go for Mulgrew. He's never let us down. Fletcher I feel has seen better days, McArthur I really don't rate and Morrison offers more going forward so again it depends on how confident Gordon is feelin. As for the right wing it is a no-brainer. It has to be Maloney. Ritchie is not ready for a game of this scale yet and Forrest's final ball is poor. May be a good option to call on late on though to run at tired legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiebeastie Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Marshall Hutton Martin Greer Whittaker Mulgrew Morrison Brown Naismith Anya S Fletcher I don't think WGS will play both Hutton and Robertson. Too attack minded. Whittaker to start LB. Mulgrew a cert in holding role with Brown and Morrison in front. He likes Morrison who can sit and attack. The front 3 if fit pick themselves. Edited June 8, 2015 by Eastiebeastie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Marshall Hutton Martin Greer Whittaker Mulgrew Morrison Brown Naismith Anya S Fletcher I don't think WGS will play both Hutton and Robertson. Too attack minded. Whittaker to start LB. Mulgrew a cert in holding role with Brown and Morrison in front. He likes Morrison who can sit and attack. The front 3 if fit pick themselves. I certainly agree with your full-back thoughts. No way is Gordon going to play two attack-minded full-backs. However, there is no way Maloney won't figure considering what a talismanic figure he has been for us. Swap Maloney for Morrison and you are there I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Ireland 5/4 Scotland 11/5 Draw 2/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Eagle Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Marshall Hutton Martin Greer Whittaker Mulgrew Morrison Brown Naismith Anya S Fletcher I don't think WGS will play both Hutton and Robertson. Too attack minded. Whittaker to start LB. Mulgrew a cert in holding role with Brown and Morrison in front. He likes Morrison who can sit and attack. The front 3 if fit pick themselves. That's the team I think WGS will pick too though personally I'd have Robertson instead of Whittaker. Either will need some protection to keep McGeady quiet. Playing Hutton and Robertson is a good option to prevent Brady and Coleman pushing on - both carry an attacking threat Edited June 8, 2015 by Tartan Eagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 If we win, we'll be pot 2. If we don't, we'll be in pot 3. If Ireland win, they'll be pot 3. If they don't, we'll be in pot 4. A win, for both teams is a massive boost to both their Euro 2016 and their World Cup 2018 chances. Make no mistake; this is our biggest match since Italy at Hampden is November 2007. I was looking at this exact situation yesterday. Ireland are at the moment the highest ranked pot 4 team. They really don't need much to get into pot 3, even the bore draw with a highly ranked team like England, would have made that closer. Like you say, its a huge match for both teams, and for both of the next tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dublin Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Are these the likely line-ups?dont think your far off with those teams , we might play whittaker instead of robertson biut i hope not IRELAND Westwood Coleman...O'Shea...Wilson...Brady McCarthy...Whelan Walters......Hoolahan......McGeady Long v Fletcher Anya......Naismith......Maloney Brown...Mulgrew Robertson...Greer...Martin...Hutton Marshall SCOTLAND This Ireland team, but with Given instead of Westwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Make no mistake; this is our biggest match since Italy at Hampden is November 2007. What about the Czech game in 2011? A win there and we were in the play-offs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Good post. I agree with you with regards to keepers but I think Marshall will get the nod. I agree with you on left-back as well and depends how confident Gorden is feeling. It wouldn't surprise me if Whittaker gets the nod. On centre-backs Berra or Greer well they are much of a muchness but may just opt for Berra's experience. I'd go for Mulgrew. He's never let us down. Fletcher I feel has seen better days, McArthur I really don't rate and Morrison offers more going forward so again it depends on how confident Gordon is feelin. As for the right wing it is a no-brainer. It has to be Maloney. Ritchie is not ready for a game of this scale yet and Forrest's final ball is poor. May be a good option to call on late on though to run at tired legs. I think we may see Mulgrew at centre half with either Morrison or Fletcher in midfield beside Broon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I think we may see Mulgrew at centre half with either Morrison or Fletcher in midfield beside Broon. I thought that at first but I think that the Brown / Mulgrew partnership will be used in midfield for 2 reasons; they have a good understanding from their club games & it would give us an extra player in the ariel battle that is going to be vital in this match. It will be harder for them to get at us from freekicks and corners if we have Hutton, Martin, Greer, Mulgrew, Fletcher and Naismith back defending them with Robertson, Anya and Maloney ready to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalgety Bay TA Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 I think there are 5 decisions to make for Strachan. Hutton, Martin, Brown, Anya, Naismith and S.Fletcher will start, if fit. 1. Goalkeeper. Marshall v Gordon. They are both good options and I'm happy with either although I think Gordon is slightly better. 2. Left-Back. Robertson v Whittaker v Forsyth. Again, there isn't much in it and it's whether we go for experience or raw talent. I'm hoping for Robertson. 3. Centre-Back. Berra v Greer v Mulgrew to partner Martin. I think that Greer is going to get the nod although I'd go with Berra. 4. Holding-Midfield. Mulgrew v McArthur v D.Fletcher v Morrison. I personally think Strachan will go with Mulgrew because it's like having a 3rd centre-back at corners and free-kicks. 5. Right-Wing. Maloney v Ritchie v Forrest. Maloney has been our star so far, Ritchie is flavour of the month and Forrest has the pace that Strachan wants. Tough call. 1. Marshall I think starts simply due to him being the one in possession of the jersey at the moment. 2. Robertson had a hard second half of the season, didn't play much, 4 starts since 1st Jan. I doubt he starts here. I think it will probably be Whittaker, who Strachan was happy enough with in Poland but Forsyth might be his back up after his 90 mins on Friday. 3. I think Berra starts as he had a decent season at Ipswich. 4. I hear what you say about Mulgrews height but I think Morrison is another of Strachans favs and he will put him and Brown in there together. Both mobile and a lot of energy. 5. Has to be Maloney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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