Glasgowmancity Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, ShedTA said: you cant buy a dead clubs history That is 100% but you can buy the assets (including history) of one that is still alive, albeit on a failing life support machine with a power cut up ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Glasgowmancity said: That is 100% but you can buy the assets (including history) of one that is still alive, albeit on a failing life support machine with a power cut up ahead. agreed. the history of the assets of the club - but not the clubs history. the club has been liquidated, and its assets sold. tbh I don't think we will ever agree on this one so ill leave it here I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 15 minutes ago, ShedTA said: agreed. the history of the assets of the club - but not the clubs history. the club has been liquidated, and its assets sold. tbh I don't think we will ever agree on this one so ill leave it here I think. The Oldco is still in Liquidation, is what you meant to say i'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 55 minutes ago, Glasgowmancity said: MK Dons & Wimbledon, Airdrie & Clydebank, Melbourne City & Melbourne Heart and many more times this has been done. That's a rubbish example. Airdrie aren't claiming Clydebanks honours/history, I doubt MK Dons are claiming Wimbledons 1988 FA cup either. Although I'd imagine AFC Wimbledon and Clydebank would consider themselves the continuation of those clubs. Rangers bought their own place back in the league, so not sure if that makes them clydebank juniors or Airdrie united in this example? I'm away for a lie down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Debian said: The Oldco is still in Liquidation, is what you meant to say i'm sure. whatever words you like Debian. My main point still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, ShedTA said: whatever words you like Debian. My main point still stands. No it doesn't. You've not provided one shred of evidence to back up your mad ramblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Debian said: No it doesn't. You've not provided one shred of evidence to back up your mad ramblings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, ShedTA said: And there we have it, the final nail in Sheds coffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Ceelo Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 15 hours ago, Scotty CTA said: If Rangers are the same club then they should pay their creditors or what's to stop other clubs from running up ridiculous debt and getting away Scot-free to the detriment of society? If Oldco are guilty of financial doping for using EBT'S with side-letters (and they are) then strip the trophies in question. You can't have it all ways and walk away smelling like a rose. Spineless league governance and a gutless media are both willing accomplices to this charade. Your just jealous Aberdoom never thought of it first, just imagine how " Famous" you would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I have no idea if i can prove it wrong, but if it's worth £100 to charity i'll give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 02/08/2017 at 8:06 PM, thplinth said: The Rangers troll army sought to overrun the truth. Then they met Scotty... a one man anti troll machine. God speed Scotty. Truth's, deception, lies, half-truths, they all crash on the rock of certainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Ceelo Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, phart said: I have no idea if i can prove it wrong, but if it's worth £100 to charity i'll give it a go. You've got 10 minutes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 01/08/2017 at 9:03 PM, Stu101 said: You source is this guy ?? !! https://johnjamessite.com/ 'Should readers turn up to find that John James is conspicuous by his absence they will know those from the UDA/UVF who have been trained to kill and now hold leading position in The Orange Ordure, have tracked me down. One group plan to burn me alive using a tyre as favoured by the Mexican drug cartels. Their apologists will come on this site and cry foul. But make no mistake these individuals are obsessed with thoughts of my demise. Sooner or later they will get to me. Prior to this eventuality I will shine as brightly as possible.' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Think that says all need to know about you, Should read what Newton said about lead and gold and the bible. Yet every University and school in the world teach his words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, The White Ceelo said: You've got 10 minutes ? OK Intangibles can only exist in secured transactions. Was this a secured transaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, phart said: Should read what Newton said about lead and gold and the bible. Yet every University and school in the world teach his words. Newton and Shed - two of a kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Debian said: Newton and Shed - two of a kind Let's hope shed's command of insolvency law isn't on a par with Newtons command of physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 2:32 AM, Stu101 said: Ok here is a question - same one as to Shed- What provision of Company law or Insolvency law deals with the separation of the history from the asset? Reference to the law, please. You've set up a loaded question by essentially comparing a company that makes widgets to a football team competing for on-field prizes. 7 hours ago, Fairbairn said: I'm in now way a financial expert but could the same not be said for Motherwell, Dundee and Hearts etc who went in to Administration giving their creditors pence in the pound? Not paying creditors isn't an indicator of not being the same club. None of those clubs were liquidated though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Ceelo Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, phart said: OK Intangibles can only exist in secured transactions. Was this a secured transaction? Ehhh, a think so! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Glasgowmancity said: MK Dons & Wimbledon... They weren't liquidated. 2 hours ago, Glasgowmancity said: Airdrie... Liquidated. Don't exist. Bought Clydebank so they could start again. 2 hours ago, Glasgowmancity said: Clydebank... Liquidated. Don't exist (other than as a Junior club started by the fans). ------------------------------------------- Gretna... Liquidated. Don't exist. Rangers 1872... Liquidated. Don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, phart said: Should read what Newton said about lead and gold and the bible. Yet every University and school in the world teach his words. They teach his theories not his more bizarre Scotty CTA type beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Larky Masher said: They teach his theories not his more bizarre Scotty CTA type beliefs. That's no the point. The point was just cause someone said something crazy about one thing, that doesn't mean you can infer everything they say is nonsense. Even if you type "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA" just not the way shit works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, phart said: Let's hope shed's command of insolvency law isn't on a par with Newtons command of physics. heres hoping!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Debian said: And there we have it, the final nail in Sheds coffin. im not dead debian, unlike your club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, ShedTA said: im not dead debian, unlike your club. Damn! Oh well, I will get a refund for my Motherwell ticket on Sunday then. Thanks for letting me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, Debian said: Damn! Oh well, I will get a refund for my Motherwell ticket on Sunday then. Thanks for letting me know. Don't be stupid - no you don't. That's a different club you fool. The one we were talking about is being liquidated as you just stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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