TDYER63 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, Bobster said: Not sure what you decided but I'm watching the second series and enjoying it more than the first. Couple of little twists that have kept it interesting. Agree that it will probably fall away if there's a third or fourth series. I'm sure it's not everybody's cup of tea but if you enjoyed the first one I'd recommend watching the second one too. Watched a few things during and after Christmas. The best by far was Slow Horses which I thought was excellent, Gary Oldman is superb in it. Don't think I've seen it mentioned on here but it's definitely worth watching. I have watched the second series and now up to date as I always need to watch the start of the next episode to find out who has been murdered and then end up watching the whole episode š¤¦āāļø I think I still prefer the first series but only because I generally warmed a bit more to the participants in that one than in this current series.Ā I agree the twists in this series have been good. The episode of the āfuneralā was brilliant. I actually laughed out loud it was so OTT. I Ā think the concept is pretty good at showing how human nature brings out the best/worst ( mainly worst) in people when they are in competition with each other , though its ultimately just a fun TV show .Ā Just looked up Slow Horses and its Apple TV š I donāt have that so cant get that show, or Ted Lasso. I will maybe sign up when I have finished Ray Donovan and can bin Paramount. Still watching RD , on the second last series. Still enjoying it but think I know why you felt you didnāt enjoy the last couple of series as much.Ā At least RD is still good , unlike the Crown which has become so outrageously bad it is almost laughable. But this is the last series and I feel compelled to see it through to the end, like a good wee loyal subject š Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Masters of the air starts on Friday.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 on my watch list when I'm on the baby feeding shift Ā 1. Masters of the air. Genuinely buzzing for the this. Band of brothers and the Pacific are two of my favourite series. The reviews of masters of the air today are very good 2. We own this city 3. The last of us 4. Monarch legacy of monsters 5. The winter King 6. All the light we cannot see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Anyone watched Slow Horses?Ā I found season 1 a bit hard going but season 2 seems a lot better so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Ā 2. We own this city Ā I had high hopes for this as I absolutely love The Wire but I just couldn't get in to it.Ā It jumps back and forth across 2 different time lines and I struggled to keep up with which was which at times.Ā Only 6 episodes I think and we didn't get to the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Good programme on the miners strike on C4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Mayor of Kingstown is not new but good. Not to be confused with Mare of Easttown which is a completely different show ( but also good) . Itās quite violent in parts but Is definitely worth watching IMO.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Two episodes into Masters of the air, not sure about it yet. Seems to be much more 'the yanks won the war on their own, yank air force good, British air force Bad' when compared to Band of Brothers and The Pacific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Two episodes into Masters of the air, not sure about it yet. Seems to be much more 'the yanks won the war on their own, yank air force good, British air force Bad' when compared to Band of Brothers and The Pacific Watched Band of Brothers again recently - a bit prone to watching the favourite classics over and over instead of new stuff! It doesn't lose any impact with repeat viewings does it; especially the episodes in Bastogne and the discovery of the camp. Haven't seen The Pacific but have it somewhere (still in the wrapper).Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 1/25/2024 at 9:51 PM, Malcolm said: Good programme on the miners strike on C4 Incredible to think (nowadays) that you could picket other places of work that voted against the strike, time doesnāt do Scargill any favours he comes across as someone who was more interested in bringing down the government than about the rights of his members. Brings back childhood memories of hurling abuse at the police as they headed out to Bilston Glen while on my way to schoolĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, dan cake said: Incredible to think (nowadays) that you could picket other places of work that voted against the strike, time doesnāt do Scargill any favours he comes across as someone who was more interested in bringing down the government than about the rights of his members. Brings back childhood memories of hurling abuse at the police as they headed out to Bilston Glen while on my way to schoolĀ yeah, terrible abuse given to the families of those who decided to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 42 minutes ago, dan cake said: Incredible to think (nowadays) that you could picket other places of work that voted against the strike, time doesnāt do Scargill any favours he comes across as someone who was more interested in bringing down the government than about the rights of his members. Brings back childhood memories of hurling abuse at the police as they headed out to Bilston Glen while on my way to schoolĀ Scargillās uber militancy divided opinions , I personally think he was stubborn and arrogant Ā . However, anyone who attempted to bring down the she devil that was Margaret Thatcher , cant be all bad.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 5 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Two episodes into Masters of the air, not sure about it yet. Seems to be much more 'the yanks won the war on their own, yank air force good, British air force Bad' when compared to Band of Brothers and The Pacific Aye, there's a lot of that. Typical from the yanks really. They make a big deal of the USAF flying daytime missions, while the cowardly RAF only flew bombing missions at night. They ignore that over the course of the war casualty rates ran at 40% for the RAF, while it was 10% for the USAF. This was for a few reasons, but mainly because the RAF bombers flew without fighter cover, which the American bombers had. Also the poor design of the Lancaster made it almost impossible for the crew to bail out when shot down. It's also worth remembering that (bizarrely) more US airmen died in training accidents back home in the US than died in combat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, TDYER63 said: Scargillās uber militancy divided opinions , I personally think he was stubborn and arrogant Ā . However, anyone who attempted to bring down the she devil that was Margaret Thatcher , cant be all bad.Ā Agree with most of that but he appears to have treated his members as nothing more than pawns, no national ballot was scandalousĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, dan cake said: Agree with most of that but he appears to have treated his members as nothing more than pawns, no national ballot was scandalousĀ I think it got to the point that Thatcher and him were as bad as each other, neither side wanting to lose face and not caring about the people being caught in the crossfire. He was never going to win and should have been focused on getting the best deal for his members . I never liked him much despite my sympathy for the industry. However, no one should ever forget why the situation arose in the first place. She destroyed communities and livelihoods with absolutely no interest in where these people would end up. Utter cretin of a human being.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, TDYER63 said: I think it got to the point that Thatcher and him were as bad as each other, neither side wanting to lose face and not caring about the people being caught in the crossfire. He was never going to win and should have been focused on getting the best deal for his members . I never liked him much despite my sympathy for the industry. However, no one should ever forget why the situation arose in the first place. She destroyed communities and livelihoods with absolutely no interest in where these people would end up. Utter cretin of a human being.Ā Still the Enemy Within is a good documentary too on the same subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 hours ago, StirlingEgg said: Still the Enemy Within is a good documentary too on the same subject. š thanks, I will watch that. I looked it up and read this in an article . The BBC showering themselves in glory yet again . Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 50 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: š thanks, I will watch that. I looked it up and read this in an article . The BBC showering themselves in glory yet again . Ā Ā It is quite disturbing, the twisting of events, a real eye opener. Think it came out in 2014 and went to Stirling Uni cinema to see it - so a key time to get more riled at the BBC! Realising too how oblivious I was as a kid watching this on the news. I remember wondering if Scargill was a decent guy or not and I'm still not really any the wiser.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 hours ago, TDYER63 said: I think it got to the point that Thatcher and him were as bad as each other, neither side wanting to lose face and not caring about the people being caught in the crossfire. He was never going to win and should have been focused on getting the best deal for his members . I never liked him much despite my sympathy for the industry. However, no one should ever forget why the situation arose in the first place. She destroyed communities and livelihoods with absolutely no interest in where these people would end up. Utter cretin of a human being.Ā There was no "best deal" for him to get. Scargill knew what was happening. Thatcher just kept on lying, saying that there was no plan to shut down the mining industry, when there clearly was. Scargill knew that, but as usual, the media portrayed it otherwise. The only way the miners were going to have a chance ofĀ keeping their jobs long term, was to bring down the Tory government. The only way the mining industry could possibly survive was to get a mining friendly Labour government back into power. If that Labour government had been led by a Tony B Liar of a Sir Kier type person, then their fate wouldn't have been any better, as they are both more extreme than Thatcher. It was win or bust for the miners and they knew that. Even if they had won, it probably would have eventually gone the same way for them anyway, but they were prepared to go down fighting. Scargill was proved right. By 1990 there was effectively no coal mining industry left in the UK.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Orraloon said: There was no "best deal" for him to get. Scargill knew what was happening. Thatcher just kept on lying, saying that there was no plan to shut down the mining industry, when there clearly was. Scargill knew that, but as usual, the media portrayed it otherwise. The only way the miners were going to have a chance ofĀ keeping their jobs long term, was to bring down the Tory government. The only way the mining industry could possibly survive was to get a mining friendly Labour government back into power. If that Labour government had been led by a Tony B Liar of a Sir Kier type person, then their fate wouldn't have been any better, as they are both more extreme than Thatcher. It was win or bust for the miners and they knew that. Even if they had won, it probably would have eventually gone the same way for them anyway, but they were prepared to go down fighting. Scargill was proved right. By 1990 there was effectively no coal mining industry left in the UK.Ā By ābest dealā I meant play it to keep the public onside. Unfortunately he lost the plot and ended up ostracising people who were otherwise very sympathetic. Most areas of the UK hated Thatcher . I realise the media did their best to twist things as per usual but I think Scargill Ā could have been smarter. The government had all the money and the power. As you say it would probably have gone the same way anyway. If so there is very good chance Thatcher would have been brought down too for her part in it.Ā I donāt disagree at all with the miners actions, they were fighting for their livelihoods, but I think Scargill inflamed the situation and I am not entirely convinced it was always for the well being of his members. Just my opinion.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Black Snow. Australian 6-parter that was on BBC Four last year. I finally got round to watching it having recorded it when it was on. Engaging cold-case murder mystery. Well acted. Really enjoyed it. I don't know if it would still be on iplayer for anyone interested but Google did suggest it is on Amazon Prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundsKeeper Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, TDYER63 said: š thanks, I will watch that. I looked it up and read this in an article . The BBC showering themselves in glory yet again . Ā The army were also dressed as police at Orgreave, highly illegal and this wasn't covered by the program. Thatcher was win at all costs, no matter what. Then Hillsborough was covered up to protect her bully boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Jack Reacher is a decent watch, if a bit formulaic.Ā Easy enough to switch the brain off and watch and they've at least nailed the casting this time.Ā Jack Ryan is also pretty good too. The second season of Vigil however is utter bilge.Ā Poorly written, casted, acted and shot.Ā Looked cheap with a ridiculous storyline but the biggest crime of the whole thing was Rose Leslie's Scottish accent.Ā And she's Scottish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Im two episodes into Ted. Quite funny so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 53 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Im two episodes into Ted. Quite funny so far I really enjoyed it. Totally juvenile humour but funny with it. A couple of episodes are a bit too long but thatās a minor niggle.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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