FurryBoots Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Just away to buy my first road bike, but cannot make up my mind between a cannondale synapse alu 105 disc 15 or a giant defy 1 15. Any advice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Don't. Cyclists are arseholes. No offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are these bikes no about 10 grand these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replay Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 The main difference is the Cannondale has disc brakes, so it all comes down to whether you want disc brakes or not I guess. The advantages of disc brakes are given here (copy & paste from Edinburgh Bike Co-op website); The Benefits of Disc BrakesProven for over a decade on mountain bikes and better quality hybrids, the benefits of disc brakes are becoming more and more recognised on road bike. Moving the brakes from the mud and rain-attracting wheel rims to the relatively clean hubs makes for an improvement in the brakes’ all-weather all-conditions performance. Disc brake pads are much harder so they last much longer. That's why disc brakes tend to need far less maintenance compared with rim brakes - they don't require such frequent adjustment to compensate for brake pad wear. The wheel rims should also last much longer now that they are no longer being worn down by the brake pads. I don't have disc brakes on either of my road bikes (I do on my MTB though), but they are growing in popularity, so I guess they could become commonplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherps Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Test ride them both and see which one you like. Aside from the disc brakes, they're both much the same component-wise, so geometry and comfort may help make up your mind. Does it have to be between those two? You could pick up a 2014 carbon bike for around the same price? There should be loads of deals out there. For instance, Edinburgh Bike Co-op are doing a Carbon 2014 Focus Cayo Evo 4 for £949. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBoots Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Don't. Cyclists are arseholes. No offence. Brilliant, had a laugh at that...........when I'm in the car I think exactly the same about Cyclists !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBoots Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Are these bikes no about 10 grand these days? Nah those two are £899 / £999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibelieve!!! Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Any advice ? Aye, leave the roads for the cars!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Aye, leave the roads for the cars!! If he's like most cyclists round here, he is probably planning on sticking to the pavements anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBoots Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Test ride them both and see which one you like. Aside from the disc brakes, they're both much the same component-wise, so geometry and comfort may help make up your mind. Does it have to be between those two? You could pick up a 2014 carbon bike for around the same price? There should be loads of deals out there. For instance, Edinburgh Bike Co-op are doing a Carbon 2014 Focus Cayo Evo 4 for £949. Took them both out a couple of weeks ago and still couldn't decide. Those were the two (in shop) that I FINALLY managed to narrow my choice down to..............I've been told that I need 54 cm bike / frame, Cayo only has 48 / 51 online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 If there's little difference in frames ride & comfort then get disc brakes,no cable yins tho, they're pash. Time for a road bike fer me too,changed work and doubled+ ma commute distance. Always get annoyed if I ever (rare) get overtaken by a road biker cos I know it's only because they've got a far lighter more speed suited bike than my mtb. Any suggestions?seen a calibre stat bike that looked ok for around £650 as a starter bike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 carseholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabmania Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Some Arseholes in cars, Some arseholes on bikes. Glad they're not the majority of either group. The taxi driver who actually pushed me and my bike out of 'his' lane at the lights is a special arsehole though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 probably better in the other sports section the difference with the arseholes in cars ; they are protected by a metal bubble i would love to put all the critics on a bike for a week and cycle about in traffic then come back with their ignorant views most folk who cycle are typically car owners / drivers too similar attitude to the fat basses who sit at the bar downing 10 pints a night and smoking 20 tabs , and bang on about the latest climber to be rescued ; and resultant cost , hassle etc ; totally oblivious to the imminent health care their sloth like behaviour will bring about our culture typically allows for this type of behaviour as acceptable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I have a hybrid bike a Merida Crossway which has both front and back disc brakes as did my former Forme Element Mountain Bike and I agree they are much better than the old fashioned cantilever brakes that I had on previous bikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Has anyone here maintained / replaced disc brakes? How much of a pain in the arse is it? (I've replaced the disc brakes on my car without any bother but the missus prefers a mechanic to do it - she claims she 'wants to live') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Has anyone here maintained / replaced disc brakes? How much of a pain in the arse is it? (I've replaced the disc brakes on my car without any bother but the missus prefers a mechanic to do it - she claims she 'wants to live') It's a skoosh, changing the pads on my mountain bike takes around 5 mins. Loads of videos on youtube etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 probably better in the other sports section the difference with the arseholes in cars ; they are protected by a metal bubble i would love to put all the critics on a bike for a week and cycle about in traffic then come back with their ignorant views most folk who cycle are typically car owners / drivers too similar attitude to the fat basses who sit at the bar downing 10 pints a night and smoking 20 tabs , and bang on about the latest climber to be rescued ; and resultant cost , hassle etc ; totally oblivious to the imminent health care their sloth like behaviour will bring about our culture typically allows for this type of behaviour as acceptable I wouldn't go on a bike as I'm never in enough of a hurry to weave in and out of traffic,jump red lights,be a road user then a pedestrian and every other bad habit that goes on to risk my life then moan about it when something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FurryBoots Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 If there's little difference in frames ride & comfort then get disc brakes,no cable yins tho, they're pash. Time for a road bike fer me too,changed work and doubled+ ma commute distance. Always get annoyed if I ever (rare) get overtaken by a road biker cos I know it's only because they've got a far lighter more speed suited bike than my mtb. Any suggestions?seen a calibre stat bike that looked ok for around £650 as a starter bike... Unfortunately the bike I am looking at has the cable disc brakes, saying that, I'm sure thats what my MTB has and they're fine. I'm exactly the same re people overtaking, make all sorts of excuses re the weight / suspension / tyres on my bike compared to theres'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalka Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Unfortunately the bike I am looking at has the cable disc brakes, saying that, I'm sure thats what my MTB has and they're fine. I'm exactly the same re people overtaking, make all sorts of excuses re the weight / suspension / tyres on my bike compared to theres'. I'm about to buy a road bike. Probably just a cheap one though as I won't use it too often. Planning to do some triathlons and I doubt I'd do very well on my mountain bike in the races. I do agree that disc brakes are great, however cable ones are poor compared to hydraulics these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Has anyone here maintained / replaced disc brakes? How much of a pain in the arse is it? (I've replaced the disc brakes on my car without any bother but the missus prefers a mechanic to do it - she claims she 'wants to live') Far easier than replacing car discs!dead easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherps Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Took them both out a couple of weeks ago and still couldn't decide. Those were the two (in shop) that I FINALLY managed to narrow my choice down to..............I've been told that I need 54 cm bike / frame, Cayo only has 48 / 51 online. The Focus is just an example of the deals on 2014 bikes that are available at this time of year. It really is a great time to buy, as 2015 bikes are out, Christmas is over and the weather's rubbish, so there are plenty deals to be had. If you haven't set your heart on either of the two, shop around and see if you can pick up a full carbon bike for around the same price as the two you picked out. Try before you buy, though, and buy from a local shop also, if possible. If you've got your heart set on one of the two above, though, it really is down to brakes. Disk brakes on road bikes are a relatively new thing but are becoming more popular. They're better than rim brakes, but I can't think of a situation where rim brakes have let me down. If brakes aren't a factor for you, just pick the bike that looks the nicest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherps Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Time for a road bike fer me too,changed work and doubled+ ma commute distance. Always get annoyed if I ever (rare) get overtaken by a road biker cos I know it's only because they've got a far lighter more speed suited bike than my mtb. Any suggestions?seen a calibre stat bike that looked ok for around £650 as a starter bike... What about a B'Twin from Decathlon? Better alloy and Shimano 105 groupset, compared to Tiagra on the Calibre. Cheaper also. http://www.decathlon.co.uk/alur-700-road-bike-id_8290145.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalka Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 What about a B'Twin from Decathlon? Better alloy and Shimano 105 groupset, compared to Tiagra on the Calibre. Cheaper also. http://www.decathlon.co.uk/alur-700-road-bike-id_8290145.html Funnily enough I was looking at this one from Decathlon: http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-300-road-bike-white-id_8239800.html Seems to be the best I can find for under £300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The Focus is just an example of the deals on 2014 bikes that are available at this time of year. It really is a great time to buy, as 2015 bikes are out, Christmas is over and the weather's rubbish, so there are plenty deals to be had. If you haven't set your heart on either of the two, shop around and see if you can pick up a full carbon bike for around the same price as the two you picked out. Try before you buy, though, and buy from a local shop also, if possible. If you've got your heart set on one of the two above, though, it really is down to brakes. Disk brakes on road bikes are a relatively new thing but are becoming more popular. They're better than rim brakes, but I can't think of a situation where rim brakes have let me down. If brakes aren't a factor for you, just pick the bike that looks the nicest. Disc brakes on road bikes are viewed as a weight issue I believeGot a carbon fibre road bike 2 years back Some guys go overboard with lightweight bottle cages Taking the caps off valve stems etc.... Am 16-1/2 stone so would make little difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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