Orraloon Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Does anyone think anything will be found on Mars, anything at all ? Yes, lots of things will be found on Mars. What kind of things are you looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes, lots of things will be found on Mars. What kind of things are you looking for? Not sure tbh, it's such a strange looking planet, you get the feeling (well I do), that it has the potential to answer so many questions about our origins etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes, lots of things will be found on Mars. What kind of things are you looking for? Chocolate ? Lots of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasMc1973 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The Creator, God, would know. Job 38:5 Isaiah 40:12 Psalm 102:25 Isaiah 48:13 Amos 4:13 who? is that this imaginary friend everyone keeps going to war about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Does anyone think anything will be found on Mars, anything at all ? There's the possibility for some microscopic life to be hanging on somewhere underground, but not much more than that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we found plenty of evidence for life having been on Mars millions of years ago when it had a thicker atmosphere, but not much significant now. The place I think we'd find life will be Europa. JUICE will launch in 2022, take 7 years to get to Jupiter and spend three years studying Europa, Ganymede and Callisto, all of which are thought to have liquid water on them. The heat comes from churning of the rocks inside these moons because of the high gravity of Jupiter - basically tidal forces like our moon causes on earth, but strong enough to bend rocks. However that's a long way away. More exciting in the near term is New Frontiers, which arrives at Pluto next year. It took this cracking photo of Io on the way past Jupiter the thing at the top is a volcano erupting and ejecting lava out to a height of 330km. We have so little knowledge of Pluto that we really have no idea what we're going to find, so that will be very exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil r Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No, the surface of the earth doesn't end. The surface on any sphere is a two dimensional surface with no edge. So where does that leave U2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So where does that leave U2? They still haven't found what they're looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'm not confusing anything. Here's the original post... Donald then introduced the earth not having an edge in his first post (which was post #4). Biffer (if I understand him correctly) is maintaining that because the earth is finite, then the universe could be too. So is the outer part of the universe solid as well? (Or do we measure space?) And if the universe is expanding, then what is it expanding into? In conclusion... We can measure the earth, and we can't measure the universe. The Creator, God, would know. Job 38:5 Isaiah 40:12 Psalm 102:25 Isaiah 48:13 Amos 4:13 Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This is the best image we currently have of Pluto btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 See Professor Brian Cox thinks that we are "alone" in the universe, he's changed his opinion then has he not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 See Professor Brian Cox thinks that we are "alone" in the universe, he's changed his opinion then has he not ? I think he is just looking at it from a different angle this time. The program that I saw a while back he was talking about the sheer size of the numbers involved. He was looking at the vast numbers of galaxies in our universe and the vast number of stars in each galaxy and then the vast numbers of planets that there could be in all those solar systems. From memory, I think he went onto the Drake Equation and how, when you plug in the numbers, it might appear that it is "likely" that other intelligent life forms exist in the universe. This time round he is looking at all the coincidences that have happened to Earth which have allowed intelligent life to evolve. Coupling all of those together it points towards the probability of it happening, somewhere else in the universe, might be unlikely. It is important to remember that in both programs he is talking about intelligent life civilisations capable of developing some form of communication throughout space. The arguments for and against any other life forms throughout the universe are a wee bit different. I would guess that if you asked him the question "Are there any other intelligent life forms out there?" then e would possibly say that the probability is somewhere between "likely" and "unlikely" but the real answer is that "we don't know". Anybody who tries to tell you that they do know, probably isn't a scientist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 See Professor Brian Cox thinks that we are "alone" in the universe, he's changed his opinion then has he not ? I have to change over instantly every time I see him on TV. Patronizing whank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I have to change over instantly every time I see him on TV. Patronizing whank. But he's not talking to you. He is trying to communicate with folk who don't already know everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 the Drake equation is a shambles. As Feynman said "I really don't think these guys know what they're talking about," Well he was talking about these thought experiments masquerading as "science" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 But he's not talking to you. He is trying to communicate with folk who don't already know everything. Coming from you that is actually quite funny, for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Coming from you that is actually quite funny, for once. He's crabbit today, had a wee dig at scunnered for not liking "the SNP" as well. Nothing a good night rest won't sort out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rinky dink Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 So did this Brian Cox felly say if the universe ends or not? and what's on the other side if it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) He's crabbit today, had a wee dig at scunnered for not liking "the SNP" as well. Nothing a good night rest won't sort out. I'm permacrabbit. I apologize in advance. edit" Its just a change in me, something in my levity" Edited November 25, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This time round he is looking at all the coincidences that have happened to Earth which have allowed intelligent life to evolve. Coupling all of those together it points towards the probability of it happening, somewhere else in the universe, might be unlikely. Does that not reflect the odds of producing life like us? It could have happened elsewhere and produced life not like us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So did this Brian Cox felly say if the universe ends or not? and what's on the other side if it does? There may not be another side, so there may be no answer to the question. The answer could be "Mu" http://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=583 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Coming from you that is actually quite funny, for once. I'm not too keen on Brian Cox either. My favourite TV science folk are Iain Stewart, Jim Alkhalihi and of course he lovely Professor Alice Roberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 He's crabbit today, had a wee dig at scunnered for not liking "the SNP" as well. Nothing a good night rest won't sort out. I only asked him a couple of questions. Asking questions isn't a sign of crabbitness, it is a sign of curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Does that not reflect the odds of producing life like us? It could have happened elsewhere and produced life not like us? I think it was supposed to reflect the odds of producing life which would have the ability to invent advanced communication technology. But to be honest I was only kinda half watching it so I could be havering nonsense. I also think (but I could be wrong) that he chose to overlook the fact that even if there are other advanced civilisations out there, they are likely to be so far away that any useful communication would probably not be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Anyway it's all fascinating, the Universe is so large & complex we (humans) won't be closer to finding out about our origins, creation & other lifeforms (intelligent) for a few generations yet (if indeed Mars is dead with no evolutionary history) Only my thoughts though, there are a few on this thread who clearly know way more about this stuff than me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Dawkins was excellent on this - no God bashing for once just talks science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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