mccaughey85 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: Yes, without question. I'm not saying I agree with their laws or society but I've visited lots of countries where that's the case. Sport is sport and politics is politics. That's not to say Jordan Henderson isn't a hypocrite because he is. Lol your trying to morally point score and accuse me of racism yet you have no problem with visiting countries who use slaves and would have no problem attending a world cup in stadiums built by slaves. You are a strange boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: Stop being an idiot. I think most sensible ppl in here will understand the point I was making and you trying to point score over racism is pathetic. Feels like the mask is slowly starting to slip with you as it always does. The adult way to do things would be to look at the comment and see how some people might take it the wrong way. I even said I'm sure you didn't mean it like it sounds. The childish way to do things would be to do exactly what you've just done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: The adult way to do things would be to look at the comment and see how some people might take it the wrong way. I even said I'm sure you didn't mean it like it sounds. The childish way to do things would be to do exactly what you've just done. Just stop buddy, you are trying too hard. Stop trying to be a good person and just be a good person. If you think theres overtones of racism then ask a few questions on what I meant before starting to throw accusations around like a child. Nothing worse than ppl who throw racism accusations around like confetti. In my experience most black ppl and other races hate it because it undermines proper racism when it occurs. But hey you crack on, as I said the mask seems to slipping again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 So in a discussion about players using the granny-rule someone points out that two Spanish CB's are actually French and you add to that that most of the French squad are the children of immigrants and not 'indigenous' and then use this as justification for the granny-rule and French players playing for Spain. So, what did you mean because the most obvious interpretation of it is that most of the French squad isn't actually French. If there is some other way to interpret that, I'd love to hear it. And, the option was there to ignore my comment or just say it was worded badly. You chose neither. And the Qatar World Cup? I'd have rather it were held somewhere else but anyone who puts petrol in their car,or buys any product made in China, is tacitly supporting some pretty nasty regimes. Don't know what all the 'mask slipping' nonsense is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: If you think theres overtones of racism then ask a few questions on what I meant before starting to throw accusations around like a child. My comment: Quote I'm sure you don't it mean like it sounds but I'd maybe revise this statement. Super childish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: @Toepoke f.y i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mccaughey85 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 25 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: So in a discussion about players using the granny-rule someone points out that two Spanish CB's are actually French and you add to that that most of the French squad are the children of immigrants and not 'indigenous' and then use this as justification for the granny-rule and French players playing for Spain. So, what did you mean because the most obvious interpretation of it is that most of the French squad isn't actually French. If there is some other way to interpret that, I'd love to hear it. And, the option was there to ignore my comment or just say it was worded badly. You chose neither. And the Qatar World Cup? I'd have rather it were held somewhere else but anyone who puts petrol in their car,or buys any product made in China, is tacitly supporting some pretty nasty regimes. Don't know what all the 'mask slipping' nonsense is about. My point wasn't that most of the French squad are not french. Of course they are french, most were born in France or brought up there from a young age. I never said anything to the contrary. My point was that most or alot of their squad are the sons of immigrant families who moved to France rather than the French who have been in France for many generations. If you think that pointing out that countries like Belgium, Netherlands and France rely heavily on their immigrant population to produce footballers is racist then you really are a crackpot and theres no point in discussing anything with you. I am happy to use any advantage we can get within the rules. We are a small country and we need all the help we can get, if that means using the granny rule then so be it. You joined 6/7 months ago, what was your previous account or username? You sound very similar to certain idiots that have been in here in the past who ended up leaving because they talked utter shit constantly and acted like an arrogant arseholes who stubbornly doubled down like you are with this argument. You are insinuating that I was being racist and seem desperate to prove I was being racist. Thats a dirty and low thing to do. Get your facts straight in future before jumping in with accusations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 58 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: So in a discussion about players using the granny-rule someone points out that two Spanish CB's are actually French and you add to that that most of the French squad are the children of immigrants and not 'indigenous' and then use this as justification for the granny-rule and French players playing for Spain. So, what did you mean because the most obvious interpretation of it is that most of the French squad isn't actually French. If there is some other way to interpret that, I'd love to hear it. And, the option was there to ignore my comment or just say it was worded badly. You chose neither. And the Qatar World Cup? I'd have rather it were held somewhere else but anyone who puts petrol in their car,or buys any product made in China, is tacitly supporting some pretty nasty regimes. Don't know what all the 'mask slipping' nonsense is about. I think it's probably best if we avoid each other on here. We are obviously on different wavelengths and I have no interest in being accused of racism by you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: My point wasn't that most of the French squad are not french. Of course they are french, most were born in France or brought up there from a young age. I never said anything to the contrary. My point was that most or alot of their squad are the sons of immigrant families who moved to France rather than the French who have been in France for many generations. If you think that pointing out that countries like Belgium, Netherlands and France rely heavily on their immigrant population to produce footballers is racist then you really are a crackpot and theres no point in discussing anything with you. I am happy to use any advantage we can get within the rules. We are a small country and we need all the help we can get, if that means using the granny rule then so be it. You joined 6/7 months ago, what was your previous account or username? You sound very similar to certain idiots that have been in here in the past who ended up leaving because they talked utter shit constantly and acted like an arrogant arseholes who stubbornly doubled down like you are with this argument. You are insinuating that I was being racist and seem desperate to prove I was being racist. Thats a dirty and low thing to do. Get your facts straight in future before jumping in with accusations. There is no insinuating here. What you said can clearly be interpreted as racist (especially your use of the word 'indigenous') If you can't see that fine but your above explanation makes absolutely no sense in the context of the conversation. This is my first and only account. If other posters have annoyed you, I'm beginning to think they may have had a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: There is no insinuating here. What you said can clearly be interpreted as racist (especially your use of the word 'indigenous') If you can't see that fine but your above explanation makes absolutely no sense in the context of the conversation. This is my first and only account. If other posters have annoyed you, I'm beginning to think they may have had a point. As I said let's just avoid each other. Plenty of other posters on here you can discuss stuff with but it won't be with me. This will be the last time I respond to your posts and I would appreciate if you would do the same with my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 37 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: There is no insinuating here. What you said can clearly be interpreted as racist (especially your use of the word 'indigenous') If you can't see that fine but your above explanation makes absolutely no sense in the context of the conversation. This is my first and only account. If other posters have annoyed you, I'm beginning to think they may have had a point. The word indigenous is racist? Are there any 'safe' words left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, todd said: The word indigenous is racist? Are there any 'safe' words left? It depends what you think makes a nation. Is it ethnic or cultural or a mixture of both? It's been a long time (and probably never was the case) that any Western European nation could claim to really be made up of members of the same ethnic group. Even in France itself, there is no clear Ethnic group of 'French'. So saying the children of immigrants are not indigenous when we can't actually define what indigenous is? Could easily be construed as racist. It would be like saying Pat Nevin isn't 'indigenous' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I should add in that my children are French (but with a Scottish father) and would be upset to be told they weren't 'indigenous '. Something tells me that wouldn't happen though and that is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Watching Jordan Rhodes and Karamoko Dembele in action for Blackpool there. Dembele missed a great chance to win it in stoppage time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Watching Jordan Rhodes and Karamoko Dembele in action for Blackpool there. Dembele missed a great chance to win it in stoppage time. And back to Scottish players in action. Other than his miss how has Dembele played, do we just file him with Islam Feruz or is there some hope he might come good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 24 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: And back to Scottish players in action. Other than his miss how has Dembele played, do we just file him with Islam Feruz or is there some hope he might come good? Tidy use of the ball and quite quick. Still lacking a bit physically. I know his last international appearance was with England U18s but I'd be surprised if he gets anywhere near their full squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 In the same game McKenna came on as sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 35 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: And back to Scottish players in action. Other than his miss how has Dembele played, do we just file him with Islam Feruz Islam Feruz 😆, up there with Ryan Gauld for biggest impostor in a Hibs shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 39 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: And back to Scottish players in action. Other than his miss how has Dembele played, do we just file him with Islam Feruz or is there some hope he might come good? His run for his missed chance was very good. Just didn't look confident one-on-one. Definitely far more hope than Feruz. He has senior goals and assists in League 1. Has a really nice touch and an eye for a pass. Does seem a bit moany on the pitch which isn't usually the best trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Scotlandfan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Tidy use of the ball and quite quick. Still lacking a bit physically. I know his last international appearance was with England U18s but I'd be surprised if he gets anywhere near their full squad. Should definitely be in our under 21 squad. Decent praise from Earnshaw and Holloway at the end there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnish Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 7 hours ago, theabsentee said: Let's just be a nation of losers then, let's get pissed & not even bother attending the game because we're only going to get humped when we play anyone that's decent, again if your happy with that good for you but I'm certainly not. If we were incapable of picking 11 Scotsmen in a team without being losers then we deserve to be losers. As it happens we are quite capable so no need to go down that route like the rugby team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 hours ago, BryanBlessed said: The adult way to do things would be to look at the comment and see how some people might take it the wrong way. I even said I'm sure you didn't mean it like it sounds. The childish way to do things would be to do exactly what you've just done. Just thought I'd stick my oar in and agree with the poster who said you are a silly boy. There was nothing inappropriate in what he said. This virtue signalling (as practised by young weirdos) is a pain in the arse. And that is indeed what you were doing. So stop it, silly boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanBlessed Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 45 minutes ago, duncan II said: Just thought I'd stick my oar in and agree with the poster who said you are a silly boy. There was nothing inappropriate in what he said. This virtue signalling (as practised by young weirdos) is a pain in the arse. And that is indeed what you were doing. So stop it, silly When people throw insults around, you know they have no arguments. You don’t even know what 'virtue signalling' is apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said: When people throw insults around, you know they have no arguments. You don’t even know what 'virtue signalling' is apparently. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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