ceudmilefailte Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Is he actually any good, haven't heard much about him since his move to Dunfermline. Was he even a regular starter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Is he actually any good, haven't heard much about him since his move to Dunfermline. Was he even a regular starter? I saw him on TV a couple of months ago coming on a sub & he looked different class. He didn't seem to do much after that though we'd be better getting a Dunfermline fans opinion why. I just know from glancing at the Crystal Palace forum previously a lot of fans rate him & wanted him given a first team chance. I guess this time next year we will know a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 13 hours ago, theabsentee said: I saw him on TV a couple of months ago coming on a sub & he looked different class. He didn't seem to do much after that though we'd be better getting a Dunfermline fans opinion why. I just know from glancing at the Crystal Palace forum previously a lot of fans rate him & wanted him given a first team chance. I guess this time next year we will know a lot more. and there we have the problem. Remember on the early days of football forums on the internet that Robbie Foy was the next Dalglish or Michael Stewart will go on to achieve great things in the game. We do live in hope though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Burj_Alba said: and there we have the problem. Remember on the early days of football forums on the internet that Robbie Foy was the next Dalglish or Michael Stewart will go on to achieve great things in the game. We do live in hope though. That team squad didn’t have stories like Gilmour, McTominay etc though. I think there’s more reason to be optimistic about young talents currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 15 hours ago, theabsentee said: I saw him on TV a couple of months ago coming on a sub & he looked different class. He didn't seem to do much after that though we'd be better getting a Dunfermline fans opinion why. I just know from glancing at the Crystal Palace forum previously a lot of fans rate him & wanted him given a first team chance. I guess this time next year we will know a lot more. Since the move it would appear that he hasn't played as many minutes as a decent prospect should. Unless injuries have held him back I doubt if he wiil become a full internationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 hours ago, ProudScot said: That team squad didn’t have stories like Gilmour, McTominay etc though. I think there’s more reason to be optimistic about young talents currently etc? pretty sure gilmour and mctominay are the only guys who have come through at top clubs since fletcher in 2003. Thats not very promising imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: etc? pretty sure gilmour and mctominay are the only guys who have come through at top clubs since fletcher in 2003. Thats not very promising imo. Tierney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Tierney? tierney never came through at arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, mccaughey85 said: tierney never came through at arsenal Not a fan but I would say Celtic are a top club and he was playing in the champions league at 20. I am assuming you were being sarcastic when you said "Tierney never came though at Arsenal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: Not a fan but I would say Celtic are a top club and he was playing in the champions league at 20. I am assuming you were being sarcastic when you said "Tierney never came though at Arsenal" i wouldnt say celtic are/were a top european club when tierney came through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, mccaughey85 said: i wouldnt say celtic are/were a top european club when tierney came through. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 8 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: etc? pretty sure gilmour and mctominay are the only guys who have come through at top clubs since fletcher in 2003. Thats not very promising imo. None for almost 2 years then two at the same time isn’t bad. We also have far more young players in the academies of top clubs now which can only be a good thing. There’s plenty of guys at present who can make the breakthrough at a bigger club & we also have Patterson at Rangers too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burj_Alba Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 With this kid, a lot depends on who the next Palace manager is and whether he puts any emphasis on the youth setup there. Otherwise it could be series of loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I said it at the time, I highly doubt that a player who is sent on loan to a Scottish 1st division side is anywhere near an EPL 1st team. Generally speaking top EPL clubs send their bright prospects to the top division in places like Holland or Belgium, a lower half EPL side or an established Championship side. Other players on their books get sent lower down the footballing pecking order to clubs in League 1 (England) or Scottish Prem. You can never write a young player off but based on his career so far he is way down the list of potential top grade Scottish prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) David Beckham joined 2nd Division Preston when he was 19. Wonder what became of him. Lewis Fiorini went to the second tier in Holland. Mason Mount went the Dutch route, too. Edited May 27, 2021 by Taylor1996 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 This guy has Ruben Sammut written all over him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: David Beckham joined 2nd Division Preston when he was 19. Wonder what became of him. Lewis Fiorini went to the second tier in Holland. Mason Mount went the Dutch route, too. Which is why I said generally. Mason Mount went to a top division Dutch side which is a million miles away from a scottish championship side. What would Banks learn at in this loan spell that would come close to preparing him for EPL action? He is almost certain to go on loan again next season. You would hope that it would be at a higher level. If not then I think that shows what the peoppe at Palace think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: Which is why I said generally. Mason Mount went to a top division Dutch side which is a million miles away from a scottish championship side. What would Banks learn at in this loan spell that would come close to preparing him for EPL action? He is almost certain to go on loan again next season. You would hope that it would be at a higher level. If not then I think that shows what the peoppe at Palace think. I wasn't replying to you. Just replying in general about his move. But I agree. He might learn something from moving to the SPL. Maddison would say that he learned a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 5 hours ago, ProudScot said: This guy has Ruben Sammut written all over him Give the kid a chance man, he is only 19 so let's see where the next year takes him. Hopefully there's a successful loan this season to English league 1 or higher. He looks looks to have all the attributes to be a very good player, so let's just wait & see. We might even get a hint if what's to come after these under 21 friendlies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelonehutch Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 He struggled to get a game for the pars and sat on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 On 5/27/2021 at 3:20 PM, Diamond Scot said: I said it at the time, I highly doubt that a player who is sent on loan to a Scottish 1st division side is anywhere near an EPL 1st team. Generally speaking top EPL clubs send their bright prospects to the top division in places like Holland or Belgium, a lower half EPL side or an established Championship side. Other players on their books get sent lower down the footballing pecking order to clubs in League 1 (England) or Scottish Prem. You can never write a young player off but based on his career so far he is way down the list of potential top grade Scottish prospects. Makes bench today for the first time. Apparently impressed Viera in Pre season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: Makes bench today for the first time. Apparently impressed Viera in Pre season Along with 2 other U23 players who didnt get on. Palace have lost loads of players and are in the process of builidng a squad. I might be wrong but id be surprised if he makes the bench at the end of the transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 hours ago, GHfaeGTA said: Makes bench today for the first time. Apparently impressed Viera in Pre season Great to hear, hopefully Vierra has been impressed enough to keep him involved & be given his debut in soon to come league Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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