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Poland V Germany, Roi V Germany.


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Now that we've been beaten by them, the scenario you're looking for is that everyone else gets beat by them, but by more than one goal.

That way, although we didn't get any points from the fixture, we did "well" in comparison to other teams by only coming out of it -1.

Seems pretty obvious to me.

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The head to head only matters when comparing the teams who are deadlocked.

If we end up tied on points with Poland it won't matter if we lost by 1 and they lost by 4 to Germany. It will matter what we did against each other!

Only if we both beat each other by the same score, or 2 draws will overall goal difference come into play!

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If McCarthy and Coleman are fit to play for Ireland,this is as good a chance as any for us to knick a point,due to the amount of German injuries. However, I fear the Germans will draw with Poland and take it out on us.

Poland 1-1 Germany, Germany 4-1Ireland

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Germany were awful against us and will need to up their game massively to take six points.

it's obvious why they've been playing 4 centre halves as their new full backs against us were awful

we created at least six chances and if hadn't been for fact that our centre halves can't defend crosses we would have won

unsure if schweinstieger but hope so as we need them to win

can't see any demolition jobs

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World Champions v part-time Gibraltar.

Right enough.

are we not talking about Poland Germany Germany Ireland?

see schweinstieger, kheira, reus, Gomez, ozil out and of course lahm, klose and merteseker gone

that is not the world champions anymore

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Draws please- Lets win the group. Just played the hardest team away and they didn't look anything great

Dream on eh? Germany are grand masters (probably world champions at it) at winning games even if they play not so great. They find a way as sure as eggs are eggs as their qualifying results throughout history show. Scarily impressive and nothing is going to change in this campaign. Our focus has to be on finishing second though.

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Draws please- Lets win the group. Just played the hardest team away and they didn't look anything great

I admire your confidence but lets just focus on qualification by any means... Two comfortable German victories please.

Hopefully getting hammered by Argentina and run close by Scotland will wake them up.

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