ParisInAKilt Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/cyclist-crashed-into-woman-mobile-phone-pay-compensation-london Maybe those with any legal knowledge could explain how this is fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 He totally deserves the fine, everyone knows cyclists are twats plus he runs a yoga retreat. That alone deserves a fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 A green traffic light means that you may proceed providing the way ahead is clear. It doesn't mean that you can plough on regardless of whether there is a pedestrian in the middle of the road. Having said that, idiots who wander about the streets looking their phone not paying attention to what's going on round about them, deserve everything they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Rohan said: He totally deserves the fine, everyone knows cyclists are twats plus he runs a yoga retreat. That alone deserves a fine Not even read the article but £20 says the guy is also a Vegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Vision Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/cyclist-crashed-into-woman-mobile-phone-pay-compensation-london Maybe those with any legal knowledge could explain how this is fair? Yeah not sure where fair generally comes into anything to do with the application of the law, or many things in life come to think of it. But it has noting to do fault / blame here. As the judge decided they were both equally at fault. So it seems his main mistake was to stick to his principles on not making a (counter) claim against the pedestrian. Or generally not getting legal advice at the start. As much as he has been shafted having to pay her £5k and cover the £100k cost of the trial. You have to wonder how things like this end up at trial. for what turned out to be a no fault accident. Seems like a waste of everyone's time and money. If he had counter claimed, I assume the damages may have roughly cancelled out. But wonder who would have picked up the legal costs, the Taxpayer? She has a scar to show for her stupidity and he is forever skint, but I do kinda admire his stand against whats become a US style litigious legal system in the UK. Even if he would do it differently in hindsight. Edited June 21, 2019 by The Golden Vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Haha he probably is but 100k seems a bit steep, even for a yoga cyclist vegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 It's the woman he hit who runs the yoga retreat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, The Golden Vision said: You have to wonder how things like this end up at trial. for what turned out to be a no fault accident. Solicitors 😡 🚑 🏃🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, phart said: It's the woman he hit who runs the yoga retreat. This changes everything ... 100k for a 2 day trial. I’m in the wrong job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Vision Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Yeah i guess so, she obviously wanted someone to blame and get compensation and his second mistake was not getting one as soon as she started the claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Vision Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: This changes everything ... 100k for a 2 day trial. I’m in the wrong job. yeah but to be slightly fair to the legal profession here, its not just 2 days trial. There is (sometimes) many days / weeks work in preparation for that 2 days in court Its just in this case it was a complete waste of everyones time. IMHO. Edited June 21, 2019 by The Golden Vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Vision Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 its this bit that is holding my attention in this case still "the judge ruled that a 8mm scar on her lip did not detract from her “very attractive” appearance" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Golden Vision said: its this bit that is holding my attention in this case still "the judge ruled that a 8mm scar on her lip did not detract from her “very attractive” appearance" Already "investigated" this, the judge needs to get out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Vision Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 noted, saved me a google... Judges but....he probably has a fetish for women with scars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Cyclist bloke sounded air horn and shouted a warning other pedestrians gave evidence supporting the cyclist he was also knocked out i believe when is a cyclophobia going to be considered a hate crime before you laugh i was pepper sprayed couple of years back after “debate” with a driver who got stopped at lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I read some more details where the cyclist shouted, sounded a horn and still hit the pedestrian at 15mph. He was travelling far too fast and maybe the brakes would have been better than a horn? Maybe time for cyclists to have insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Big Col said: I read some more details where the cyclist shouted, sounded a horn and still hit the pedestrian at 15mph. He was travelling far too fast and maybe the brakes would have been better than a horn? Maybe time for cyclists to have insurance? Pedestrians too and fat fvckers who sit on the couch all day eating pizza ; obesity smokers ; alkies ; junkies who suck up resources in the health services Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 brilliant 😀 whataboutery at it's finest, the TAMB never fails to deliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Hibs Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 London cyclist are generally khunts. Doesnt matter if the lights are green, amber or red, unless it is a serious junction then it's fair game to race through them not giving a flying fuk, while screaming at anybody who might get in their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Big Col said: brilliant 😀 whataboutery at it's finest, the TAMB never fails to deliver. Pedestrians though is directly relevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Speed is the problem mostly always. I would reckon 90% of accidents are avoidable if the speed was reduced. If you go through a busy pedestrian crossing at speed hoping no idiot walks out you have been trained badly, you always assume one will and especially on a bike or a motorbike where it could kill you. Regarding the insurance it will be a massive shame if bikes can no longer use pavements as a result but alas there are so many arseholes going too fast on them it seems inevitable. I cycle but as a pedestrian it annoys me when some fecker flies past from behind and gives you a fright, usually a courier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark frae Crieff Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Big Col said: I read some more details where the cyclist shouted, sounded a horn and still hit the pedestrian at 15mph. He was travelling far too fast and maybe the brakes would have been better than a horn? Maybe time for cyclists to have insurance? If you have Household insurance it covers you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 "Red and Green. Learn the bloody difference" Top Gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketrocketman1888 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Ive always thought that folk that complain about cyclists should try it for a few weeks then come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pocketrocketman1888 said: Ive always thought that folk that complain about cyclists should try it for a few weeks then come back perception of a cyclist being a dick doesn't stop them being a dick multiple times been walking on a path & cyclists push you off + rattling through red lights as though the highway code has no application for them I don't recall last time i see cyclist stopping at red light - normally they either go through red light or run onto the the paths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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