Huddersfield Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 To be fair, this thread was started by Kimba, a Maddog alter ego, as I recall to shift this off other threads. Unfortunately, rather than any sort of debate, I think we get evidence for evolution on one side, broadly met by Biblical cut & paste plus excerpts from 'Now That's Why You're Going To Hell 2018' on the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, Huddersfield said: To be fair, this thread was started by Kimba, a Maddog alter ego, as I recall to shift this off other threads. Unfortunately, rather than any sort of debate, I think we get evidence for evolution on one side, broadly met by Biblical cut & paste plus excerpts from 'Now That's Why You're Going To Hell 2018' on the other. Ok, I forgot that; if we interpret it as the same person then it's 'their' thread, but, it's misleading because I thought it was meant to be about evidence of evolution.  Then I saw the little 'god' tag which if I'd seen before I would not have even entered the thread because for me there is simply no point discussing such things here. If I want a sermon I'll go to church, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I was going to remind people there's already an 'evidence of evolution' thread. So people can now choose whether to write about religion on the evolution thread, or vice versa. Though to be honest I am only guessing the religion bit, I have no idea what the 'biggest baws' is about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Nearly every creature on the planet has an anus to pass waste - coincidence ? Then there is Active touch sensing Insects antenna, mammalian whiskers and human finger tips - coincidence ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) I was reminded on the Noah's Ark Cardiff player thread about kangaroos. Without evolution, when & where were they brought into existence? Were there any on the ark? If there were, how did they get to Australia without breeding anywhere else along the way? If not, that seems to make the whole ark episode pointless, as presumably God could have waved any creature He liked back into existence anyway. You could say the same for giraffes I suppose (there's a picture on the thread which shows the relative size of a giraffe to the ark as described in the Bible). How did the pair of giraffes get from the Middle East to the various parts of Africa where sub-species exist, but then travel thousands of miles leaving before starting another sub-species? Then there's dodos...there are no end of creatures that are (or were) endemic to small parts of the world. Â Edited January 31, 2019 by Huddersfield typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Huddersfield said: I was reminded on the Noah's Ark Cardiff player thread about kangaroos. Without evolution, when & where were they brought into existence? Were there any on the ark? If there were, how did they get to Australia without breeding anywhere else along the way? If not, that seems to make the whole ark episode pointless, as presumably God could have waved any creature He liked back into existence anyway. You could say the same for giraffes I suppose (there's a picture on the thread which shows the relative size of a giraffe to the ark as described in the Bible). How did the pair of giraffes get from the Middle East to the various parts of Africa where sub-species exist, but then travel thousands of miles leaving before starting another sub-species? Then there's dodos...there are no end of creatures that are (or were) endemic to small parts of the world.  I thought the description of the population of the Earth by a diversity of species derived from predecessor versions of those species sounded very much like evolution (adaptive radiation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, exile said: I thought the description of the population of the Earth by a diversity of species derived from predecessor versions of those species sounded very much like evolution (adaptive radiation). That same thought crossed my mind. In Scotty’s post on the other thread he was basically saying that all dogs share a common ancestor that would look something like them but somehow or another the features of modern dogs have altered for whatever reason. The process by which the offspring of the ark dogs became everything from poodles to Alsatians would be interesting to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47873072 New human species found in Philippines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47873072 New human species found in Philippines Looks as if several human species died off around the same time time. Was it due to some grand extinction event? Or more likely, out-competed by the most successful humans.... us? So looking back to the dinosaurs, maybe they didn't die off due to a grand extinction event. Just out-competed by the most successful dinosaurs.... chickens?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48011113 Gorillas pose for selfie with DR Congo anti-poaching unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48011113 Gorillas pose for selfie with DR Congo anti-poaching unit Thats brilliant...... i thot it was a spooff but reading thru it really is a great picture.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Why does the gorilla have a pygmy on his back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Baby Heron  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Or .......huge, very old hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 11:29 PM, exile said: Just out-competed by the most successful dinosaurs.... chickens?! 50 billion global population - they cracked it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 https://phys.org/news/2019-07-oldest-africa-reset-human-migration.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1376-z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: https://phys.org/news/2019-07-oldest-africa-reset-human-migration.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1376-z Maybe somebody carried the skull of a long dead homo sapien with them when they moved out of Africa 50,000 years ago or even 1000 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 This almost religious desire to have the first humans 'coming out of Africa' is up there with the big bang theory and global warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, thplinth said: This almost religious desire to have the first humans 'coming out of Africa' is up there with the big bang theory and global warming. All three of those are just theories which are there to be disproven, or improved upon, by other folk who are smart enough and have the inclination to do so. Based on my limited knowledge I would guess that, homo sapiens first appearing in Africa, has more evidence behind it than the other two. That doesn't mean that I think that any of the three are 100% correct or 100% wrong. Just different amounts of evidence backing them up IMO. Who do think has this religious desire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The out-of-Africa idea has plenty of support from DNA studies I think.  At least in current populations ...the survivors.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Why would a conspiracy theory place the origin of humanity in Africa? If anyone thinks humans didn't come out of Africa, where did they (we) come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 If we simplistically look at Europe as 'white', and Asia as 'Oriental', and Africa as 'black', then those three continents converge at the Middle East. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Simplistically obviously meaning ignoring all current undisputed evidence Map shows years in 1000s - which was before the latest discoveries With the development of archaeological technology it's possible we will find more evidence to change the map  Edited July 12, 2019 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: Simplistically obviously meaning ignoring all current undisputed evidence Map shows years in 1000s - which was before the latest discoveries With the development of archaeological technology it's possible we will find more evidence to change the map  FFS. Not even a proper map, no ice wall or dome or anything,rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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