kumnio Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, weekevie04 said: Cosgrove is an excellent broadcaster, very knowledgeable, funny, and sound. English is our best sports journalist by a country mile. Thompson, Stewart and Bonner are all not bad too. Even just writing the names of Willie Miller, Keith Jackson, Chick Young, Kris Boyd looks ridiculous in attempting to compare them to the rest as pundits/journalists. Eh, surely you cant mean Packie? He is close to being mentally disturbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 2 hours ago, kumnio said: Eh, surely you cant mean Packie? He is close to being mentally disturbed. Trump fan and Brexit voter aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Chick young really has to leave sportsound, not next year, not in 2025 but Now. It was embarrassing listening to him pine for Souness and McLiesh for the scotland job. Weirdly it was Daryl Broadfoot who spoke most sense last night but then it wasn't difficult to sound good when CY was babbling on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 20 hours ago, weekevie04 said: Cosgrove is an excellent broadcaster, very knowledgeable, funny, and sound. English is our best sports journalist by a country mile. Thompson, Stewart and Bonner are all not bad too. Even just writing the names of Willie Miller, Keith Jackson, Chick Young, Kris Boyd looks ridiculous in attempting to compare them to the rest as pundits/journalists. Agree with all but Bonner. Clearly a nice guy, but he just goes on and on and on and on and on while managing to say nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 22 hours ago, Orraloon said: I would be quite happy to have him in our squad. I wonder if we will ever again see a Scotland player get 20 international goals. Who would you put him in place of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: Who would you put him in place of? Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) In my time going to Scotland games, first game Latvia 1997 our top scorer Kenny Miller has a measley 18 goals. That is absolutely pathetic The Polands, Republic and Northern Ireland's haven't been much, if any better than us during this time but they've produced goal scorers over these years. Keane and Lewandowski must have 60+ Goals. David Healy has 36 playing in a far poorer side than us during this time We simply don't score enough goals. Other than the 3 recent games against glorified pub teams when was the last time we gave someone a hiding? Edited January 16, 2018 by DoonTheSlope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, SMcoolJ said: Agree with all but Bonner. Clearly a nice guy, but he just goes on and on and on and on and on while managing to say nothing. Maybe got a bit carried away with the Packie Bonner inclusion. Agree, he's a gentleman though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Ormond said: Martin. He's the obvious choice. Still rather have Martin though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 14/01/2018 at 12:27 PM, Cove_Sheep said: Did anyone else think this was going to be a "deid" thread? Is Stuart still alive then? I hope so. Given most threads on here with people's names mean deid, i was immediately into distress mode. Can future thread headings have "breathing" or "deid" included so we know before we start reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 3:50 PM, weekevie04 said: Maybe got a bit carried away with the Packie Bonner inclusion. Agree, he's a gentleman though. I met Packie loads of times, he's great guy and his son even played for Larkhall Thistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Currently listening to last nights sportsound podcast, either Tom English has had a personality transplant overnight or Kris Boyd was putting on a very good irish accent. He was being a bell end with his defence of Regan and the SFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Currently listening to last nights sportsound podcast, either Tom English has had a personality transplant overnight or Kris Boyd was putting on a very good irish accent. He was being a bell end with his defence of Regan and the SFA I thought that, and seemed to contradict the criticisms he made of them a week or so back. In addition his condescending tone made him come across as a bit of a wank. Which meant when he (rightly) called out Stewart on his attitude and personal agenda regarding Levein sympathies were almost elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Pool Q said: I thought that, and seemed to contradict the criticisms he made of them a week or so back. In addition his condescending tone made him come across as a bit of a wank. Which meant when he (rightly) called out Stewart on his attitude and personal agenda regarding Levein sympathies were almost elsewhere. I agreed with Stewart in his criticism of Levein, he's been full of praise for hearts and levein since he turned it around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I agreed with Stewart in his criticism of Levein. Never. Edited January 23, 2018 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pool Q said: Never. What? Stewart was critical of levein and his role in the cathro experiment, surely anyone has the right to be critical of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: What? Stewart was critical of levein and his role in the cathro experiment, surely anyone has the right to be critical of that? Absolutely, I was myself. But any suggestion that he has been full of praise for Levein is, I’m afraid, just so laughably wide of the mark that I honestly wouldn’t know where to start. But I’ve no desire to cause offence so if that’s what you think fair enough, just opinions. Stewart will get an audience. He is saying things fans of a lot of other clubs like to hear regardless of accuracy, and it is very clearly personal and lacking in any sort of subjectivity (as English just stopped short of saying). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Just now, Pool Q said: Absolutely, I was myself. But any suggestion that he has been full of praise for Levein is, I’m afraid, just so laughably wide of the mark that I honestly wouldn’t know where to start. But I’ve no desire to cause offence so if that’s what you think fair enough, just opinions. Stewart will get an audience. He is saying things fans of a lot of other clubs like to hear regardless of accuracy, and it is very clearly personal and lacking in any sort of subjectivity (as English just stopped short of saying). he praised Hearts for hammering celtic and also praised them for their performances lately. I have no doubt that Stewart and Levein can't stand each other but Stewart has praised Hearts. Feel free to explain why I am laughably wide of the mark though, I won't take offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: he praised Hearts for hammering celtic and also praised them for their performances lately. I have no doubt that Stewart and Levein can't stand each other but Stewart has praised Hearts. Feel free to explain why I am laughably wide of the mark though, I won't take offence. I agree with you here. Stewart slaughtered Levein and Hearts, rightly IMO, previously. He has however given them praise of late. Levein's criticism of Stewart was simply to deflect from his own failings and to an extent, it's worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Parklife said: I agree with you here. Stewart slaughtered Levein and Hearts, rightly IMO, previously. He has however given them praise of late. Levein's criticism of Stewart was simply to deflect from his own failings and to an extent, it's worked. I'd also add that Levein is a shite bag, his arrogance has zero boundaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, Pool Q said: Absolutely, I was myself. But any suggestion that he has been full of praise for Levein is, I’m afraid, just so laughably wide of the mark that I honestly wouldn’t know where to start. But I’ve no desire to cause offence so if that’s what you think fair enough, just opinions. Stewart will get an audience. He is saying things fans of a lot of other clubs like to hear regardless of accuracy, and it is very clearly personal and lacking in any sort of subjectivity (as English just stopped short of saying). Lacking in objectivity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: he praised Hearts for hammering celtic and also praised them for their performances lately. I have no doubt that Stewart and Levein can't stand each other but Stewart has praised Hearts. Feel free to explain why I am laughably wide of the mark though, I won't take offence. No he hasn’t. He has recognised the simple fact that we haven’t conceded any goals (always qualified with a ‘goal that never was’ aside), followed by an ‘it’s not pretty but I guess it’s effective’ line. And praising any team for humping Celtic the way we did is no sort of indication of objectivity or impartiality. 8 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I'd also add that Levein is a shite bag, his arrogance has zero boundaries Hence why you like what Stewart is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Lacking in objectivity? Yes, sorry, my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, Pool Q said: No he hasn’t. He has recognised the simple fact that we haven’t conceded any goals (always qualified with a ‘goal that never was’ aside), followed by an ‘it’s not pretty but I guess it’s effective’ line. And praising any team for humping Celtic the way we did is no sort of indication of objectivity or impartiality. Hence why you like what Stewart is saying. Me thinking Levein is an arrogant tosser has nothing to with my opinion on this, do you disagree with my assessment of him being arrogant? Levein has turned Hearts around since his project went pear shaped so fair play to him, it isn't pretty but who gives a shit when the team need some stability at this time. I see nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Me thinking Levein is an arrogant tosser has nothing to with my opinion on this, do you disagree with my assessment of him being arrogant? Levein has turned Hearts around since his project went pear shaped so fair play to him, it isn't pretty but who gives a shit when the team need some stability at this time. I see nothing wrong with that. I don’t really have much of a point of view on him being arrogant to be honest, neither here nor there for me if he has the interests of the club at heart and does a good job. He was a disaster in the Scotland job, made a terrible appointment in Cathro, and then took too long to get rid of him when it was clearly not working. He has been told by Budge to fix a mess that he bears a large share of responsibility for creating, and seems to me to have made a good start to that. Not pretty etc, etc, but an improvement from finishing last season as the worst team in the league and starting this season by not being able to qualify out of a group ahead of Peterhead and Dunfermline. He’s a divisive character, always has been, there’s a decent chunk of the Hearts support that don’t like him. Most of what he has said he would view as standing up for the club and himself. He doesn’t work the media like some do, and I don’t agree with everything he does or says (the normal service resumed comment was just needless). But at the same time where Stewart is making no effort at all to be fair and objective (which he isn’t) I see no reason why Levein shouldn’t challenge it. And in that context I thought English was bang on in highlighting Stewart’s lack of objectivity last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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