Rossy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, buckielugger said: Apart from minnows Malta & Gibraltar, last win in a competitive game was 2 years ago against Ireland at Celtic Park....dreadful record. Far too many players selected...little continuity...clueless formations.... Strachan is a nice guy...but he simply doesn't have what it takes. Sorry Gordon, thanks for all your efforts but please hand the baton on to someone better He's a self-serving, obstinate, contrary little ##### . Worst manager we've ever had, worse than Vogts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Poor England team just pumped us. One of the most pathetic defeats I've seen. Central defence was a total joke and our attack was utterly toothless again . Not sure Strachan can have any excuse here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, buckielugger said: 55 different players picked by Strachan.... I thought the criticism of him was that he just selects his favourites? He should go though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Since the last campaign: - finishing, both foot and head, has gone to crap - defending simple cross balls and headers has gone to crap We know we already had limitations in both departments but we weren't as bad as now. Mostly the same players. If you don't take your chances and you leak simple goals, you are going to struggle no matter how well you play in general. For the second game in a row, our opponents didn't really have to work for their victory. England didn't impress me much more than Slovakia in general play. They didn't cut us to shreds with brilliant incisive passing football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassrubber Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 If he goes the sfa will appoint Mcghee nap its them we need rid of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albathebrave Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Strachans banter is pish gtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, COLT NY said: Forrest? Wallace and Hanley, but no Martin? All those guys did well. Wallace was our best player. Delighted fir the lad that he put in an accomplished performance. Martin well worthy of getting dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamDav1982 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 There are plenty of inferior teams out that there that get by with great coaching and tight defences. This Scotland team are a shambles at the back game after game. Strachan has done noting to tighten it up and looks out of ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 minute ago, RenfrewBlue said: Poor England team just pumped us. One of the most pathetic defeats I've seen. Central defence was a total joke and our attack was utterly toothless again . Not sure Strachan can have any excuse here. Only excuse is we haven't got the players up front or at the back. I can't see we've got obvious replacements for any of them either, Chris and Russell Martin, would they had made a difference tonight? If we haven't got the key players in those positions we have to look at how the rest of the team sets up to help out in those areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, adamntg said: I do. Changing the manager will make fck all difference. ask northern Ireland whether a manager makes any difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/sport/live/football/37588933 Pat Nevin is 'proud of Scotland and their fantastic work rate'. Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bino's said: ask northern Ireland whether a manager makes any difference Northern Iteland are pish. How many actual very good results have they had? A lucky draw to qualify and one win in four games at the Euros. Edited November 11, 2016 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 For 50 odd minutes we did quite well. We still look a class behind England though ; everything from first touch to creativity we are miles behind, but we actually played better than we have in a long time for a short period and really were unlucky to be behind at half-time. Our defence and especially centre halves are utterly honking. You fear anytime a decent side plays us and they whip in a cross or setpiece that it will end up in the back of the net. Grant Hanley is a carthorse and an awful defender, an absolute liability. We are never going to improve if we cannot do basic things like defend or mark players - all three of their goals were unmarked, and it could have been more if not for a bit of luck or England missing a sitter. The biggest disappointment of tonight is that it flatters England. Whilst no team was brilliant in the first-half we certainly had a good half and created more opportunities, yet when we flap like an accordion under pressure, we are quite rightly going to end up nowhere. Plus sides - Lee Wallace played alright, and thought Brown did well too. Griffiths worked hard and almost had a few chances although poor decision making to not put Snodgrass through. He deserves another chance up front on his todd. Hate to say it as I've been a big fan but Darren Fletcher's international career probably should be over or at least nowhere near a XI place. Gave the ball away again too easily like the whole campaign. As for Strachan. I think he was unlucky tonight, but the past few games have been awful and he should've went for that. Whilst tonight we were nowhere near as bad as the last two matches, I think he's gone as far as he can with us and probably should go. I imagine he will. His reign has been mixed - started off alright, a good run in the middle, but the last 20 months or so have been poor backed up by some odd management decisions. Same old, same old. And our campaign is over after four games. Rotten stuff, and the whole SFA need to go too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 What is it six out of last seven games they have beaten us? Dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Kyle Lafferty 20 northern Ireland goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Bino's said: ask northern Ireland whether a manager makes any difference Exactly. Our players aren't great, we all know that. All we can hope for is a manager who can make a team greater than the sum of their parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 (edited) ---- Edited November 11, 2016 by stactuso85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, Batzek-osemba said: Scotland has been decent!!! You heard it first! Just been outplayed by a mediocre england team. Outplayed? Nah. Just couldn't finish or defend. You don't know football. Go and troll somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, adamntg said: Northern Iteland are pish. How many actual very good results have they had? A lucky draw to qualify and one win in four games at the Euros. Pretty harsh. They just beat Azerbaijan, 3-0. A very good result and one I doubt we'll see Scotland repeating anytime soon. They also have Czech Republic to come to Belfast and looking in a great position for the Playoffs. O'Neill has worked wonders with that squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Northern Ireland beat a team with 7 points by 4-0 today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, adamntg said: Northern Iteland are pish. How many actual very good results have they had? A lucky draw to qualify and one win in four games at the Euros. wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bino's said: Kyle Lafferty 20 northern Ireland goals I thought it was April 1st. Norwich and Rangers fans will be amazed. I don' think N.Ireland are better than us man for man but they're certainly tighter at the back whether thats down to individuals or the way the team sets up or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I wish we were as pish as Northern Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 There will be no change so long as there's enough money coming in to pay the wages in the SFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Rossy said: I wish we were as pish as Northern Ireland. says it all really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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