deso1 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, fringo said: So who's your miracle manager (same goes to many TAMBers on this thread) ? Before Lithuania......every pundit/most fans/ex players etc thought we would/should beat them...........We didn't. Before tonight most would have thought we would put up a fight........we didn't.....................DOESNT NEED A MIRACLE MANAGER, BUT MAYBE ONE WITH A CLUE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, macy37 said: Jackie Mac. I've paid his train ticket. Ah yes a non-league manager who has quit because of poor results at York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamDav1982 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, ParisInAKilt said: Bit of both no doubt. Some made basic mistakes no manager can be blamed for. Plays in a way that a poor defence is less exposed. Goes out to try and out pass Slovakia with a midfield poor on ball and leaves defence exposed. We should have gone there and sat deep to protect the weakest area of team then try to hit them with pace on break. Strachan played a high defensive line, a midfield that tried to out pass them and no pace going forward. They just waited and picked us off with a defence too easy to get at. He had no plan. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, fringo said: Look how much better we are now ?? We're still not qualifying and I'd guess many people slagging WGS were also creaming their jeans when he got appointed. He's failed but who's going to create 11 Messi's and make a difference in the immediate term ? The importance point is that Strahan has failed and needs to go. We're a very different team to the one who drew away in Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, fringo said: So who's your miracle manager (same goes to many TAMBers on this thread) ? Don't know fringo. Sack him, see who applies, we can't get any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, JamDav1982 said: Plays in a way that a poor defence is less exposed. Goes out to try and out pass Slovakia with a midfield poor on ball and leaves defence exposed. We should have gone there and sat deep to protect the weakest area of team then try to hit them with pace on break. Strachan played a high defensive line, a midfield that tried to out pass them and no pace going forward. They just waited and picked us off with a defence too easy to get at. He had no plan. . Players still made basic mistakes but don't get me wrong, the manager carries more of the blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Get rid of this clown please. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deso1 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: I doubt there would be much improvement whoever comes in. The same personnel problems are there. Bombscare defence with other better options out there, no strikers playing in a top league and largely a squad full of championship players. We may cut ourt 3-0 hammerings but bottom-line I see is we still will come up short until we have a better pool of players to call on. Sorry the idea that those defenders are the best we have is laughable...........we have tried them and tried them and tried them......They don't work........THAT MEANSÂ WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE REGARDLESS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, fringo said: Look how much better we are now ?? We're still not qualifying and I'd guess many people slagging WGS were also creaming their jeans when he got appointed. He's failed but who's going to create 11 Messi's and make a difference in the immediate term ? Exactly.  And the cycle will start all over again. New manager named, fans tommy tank over his appointment, few months of promise then the slippery slope and the bloke becomes a khunt because he can't polish a turd. No qualification and he gets the sack and it all starts over again. It is depressing but that is how it has been for two decades now near enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Ah yes a non-league manager who has quit because of poor results at York. You don't do humour do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, deso1 said: Before Lithuania......every pundit/most fans/ex players etc thought we would/should beat them...........We didn't. Before tonight most would have thought we would put up a fight........we didn't.....................DOESNT NEED A MIRACLE MANAGER, BUT MAYBE ONE WITH A CLUE. Who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, fringo said: Look how much better we are now ?? We're still not qualifying and I'd guess many people slagging WGS were also creaming their jeans when he got appointed. He's failed but who's going to create 11 Messi's and make a difference in the immediate term ? I wasn't. I never wanted him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, macy37 said: Jackie Mac. I've paid his train ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, deso1 said: Sorry the idea that those defenders are the best we have is laughable...........we have tried them and tried them and tried them......They don't work........THAT MEANSÂ WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING ELSE REGARDLESS. So can you name who you'd play in their place? Greer is a no no with many fans here and Berra has precious few fans either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Caledonian Craig said: Exactly.  And the cycle will start all over again. New manager named, fans tommy tank over his appointment, few months of promise then the slippery slope and the bloke becomes a khunt because he can't polish a turd. No qualification and he gets the sack and it all starts over again. It is depressing but that is how it has been for two decades now near enough. It's not inconceivable that we've appointed 3 poor managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, macy37 said: You don't do humour do you? Not at the moment the way I am feeling Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: The importance point is that Strahan has failed and needs to go. We're a very different team to the one who drew away in Poland. But who's fault is that and who would replace him and get us qualified ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamDav1982 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 9 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, kumnio said: Don't know fringo. Sack him, see who applies, we can't get any worse. The worrying thing is that it doesn't really matter who applies, the SFA will still go with the usual easy option, i.e the one who will give them least hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, kumnio said: Don't know fringo. Sack him, see who applies, we can't get any worse. I'm waiting for the Jimmy Calderwood picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, fringo said: But who's fault is that and who would replace him and get us qualified ? Sack him and let's see who wants the job. Harsh but it's the right thing to do. In terms of fault it's not just Strachan's but he's failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraz65 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, ParisInAKilt said: It's not inconceivable that we've appointed 3 poor managers. It's also not inconceivable that Smith and McLeish both left at the right time. If Strachan had quit after his first 15 games, history would view him very differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, fraz65 said: It's also not inconceivable that Smith and McLeish both left at the right time. If Strachan had quit after his first 15 games, history would view him very differently. McLeish definitely did. I think he knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 1 minute ago, fringo said: I'm waiting for the Jimmy Calderwood picture Better than Strachan? Probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamDav1982 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Just now, fringo said: But who's fault is that and who would replace him and get us qualified ? For this qualifying campaign no one will get us qualified. It is not all about qualification or bust it is about getting in a manager who gets the best out the squad and gives us the best chances of making a good run at qualifying. That isnt Strachan. That is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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