exile Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The count is not even over yet, and already there are complications and stalling - Lord Reid and Ian Murray (?) saying that delivering the powers will be a bit complicated because we can't just have it all our own way and we need to look at the wider context of the rest of the UK and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The count is not even over yet, and already there are complications and stalling - Lord Reid and Ian Murray (?) saying that delivering the powers will be a bit complicated because we can't just have it all our own way and we need to look at the wider context of the rest of the UK and... Was always going to be this way Im afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Not at all surprising. Fake promises from the word go and these kunts fell for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 If anyone thinks Scotland is getting anywhere near a Devo Max plan, your off your head. Scotland will get shafted by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Was always going to be this way Im afraid. yep. no great surprise. there will be piecemeal concessions over a long period of time. and much of it will be like table tennis between the houses of commons/lords. going back and forth with all happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The only power we will get is to put up income tax in scotland to lessen the austerity budget cuts, ergo taxed twice once as normal and then again to top up our budget , pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishcumnock Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 They will do a thatcher and bankrupt us ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappafan Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will pigs fly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 When the next financial crisis comes (and it will be fecking huge) there could be a surge for another vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbductedbyAliens Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Or when UK leaves EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) BBC still reporting it as 'Devo Max or Devo Plus'... Some 'no' supporters will have gone to bed anticipating their cause was winning, but wake up to find that although they 'won', their Better Together politicians already preparing the ground to go back on the deal. Edited September 19, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Here's David Cameron offering the Scots more powers: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Will they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dod Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 No, they won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al1978 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The lies they told ahead of the general election were completely transparent but this is another level. If folk voted No based on these promises they're ing idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Anything which is seen as impoverishing English voters at Scotland's expense will be rejected, understandably, by English MPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddybuc16 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Of they course they wont, they are politicians and don't honour nothing except from cold hard cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Label Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 alan rusbridger @arusbridger 1m Cameron: the debate has been settled for a generation...there can be no re-runs #indyref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Scenario: Next election, England swings to the right (Clacton by election in a few weeks time will be interesting), SNP win with increased majority in Scotland due to fact that lots of Labour supporters feel betrayed by own party. alan rusbridger @arusbridger 1m Cameron: the debate has been settled for a generation...there can be no re-runs #indyref When did he get to decide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 No, and the Tories and UKIP will take us out if Europe too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Yes they will but the timing of it is important. What would you prefer a rushed botched job put together over a few months or a constitutional convention that includes all parties ? Secondly the SNP need to participate.They normally distance themselves from Westminster on these issues. Edited September 19, 2014 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 No they wont but the timing of it is important. What would you prefer a rushed botched job put together over a few months or a constitutional convention that includes all parties ? Secondly the SNP need to participate.They normally distance themselves from Westminster on these issues. I thought Gordon Brown's timetable promised 'immediate' new powers ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I thought Gordon Brown's timetable promised 'immediate' new powers ? I meant to say yes they will. But I also think they will rush it and it wont be the best plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hessen Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I meant to say yes they will. But I also think they will rush it and it wont be the best plan. they wont rush it, they'll block it every turn, because they are liars and cheats, and if they ever set foot in Scotland again they will be lucky to get away with just an egging.........why am i angry?,,,having to constantly reassure my peer auld mother living on her own that she wont be destitute with a YES vote, and that she can still go to the shops without being attacked by a YES mob...thank you Westminster for caring about the Scottish people so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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