thplinth Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Scotunited said: So because they were cops, it is somehow more unacceptable? What the fukk are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Scotunited said: So because they were cops, it is somehow more unacceptable? You made a statement, without backing it up, and you have still not contributed anything to the conversation, apart from a comment that could have been posted to any one of the topics on here, hence the default reply comment. if you wish to add something, I may or may not agree with, go ahead. Otherwise let the adults continue to debate. Sounds to me like you are an apologist for cop killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Turns out it was all just a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 13 hours ago, thplinth said: Sounds to me like you are an apologist for cop killing. Quite how you've reached that conclusion is remarkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 how did he reach that conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 hours ago, brant grebner said: Turns out it was all just a dream. That's what they want you to think. It was defo JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Obama condemned the shootings calling them 'despicable' I must have missed it when he condemned the cop for shooting FIVE TIMES the guy reaching for his driving licence in front of his wife and daughter. There is NO excuse for that - it is murder plain and simple. That is what provoked the revenge attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 9:14 PM, Pool Q said: I've seen nothing to suggest any sort of direct connection between the Black Lives Matter protest (the BBC just said the shootings came at the end of a peaceful protest march) and the gunmen. The motivation of the attackers may turn out to have been some sort of revenge for the recent police shootings, but that doesn't seem to me to be a reason to condemn a peaceful protest. It is a terrible thing, best not to jump to conclusions. If an Orange Order march had just passed through Glasgow without any trouble, then suddenly after it finished trouble flared...Would you still have the same moral high ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, derekfaejapan said: If an Orange Order march had just passed through Glasgow without any trouble, then suddenly after it finished trouble flared...Would you still have the same moral high ground? Straw grasping, you were/are totally out of order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Straw grasping, you were/are totally out of order. Really? Please explain why. Edited July 9, 2016 by derekfaejapan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 On 08/07/2016 at 0:47 PM, derekfaejapan said: Five police officers reported dead now, absolutely horrific...So much for these fvcking Black Lives Matter 'peaceful' protesters. Cúnts. One looney decides to shoot some white police officers and you have implicated all the people on that march as cnuts.Everyone knows that everyone on an orange march is a cnut, while no one usually gets killed. 'Black lives matter' is also not a wanky phrase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: One looney decides to shoot some white police officers and you have implicated all the people on that march as cnuts.Everyone knows that everyone on an orange march is a cnut, while no one usually gets killed. 'Black lives matter' is also not a wanky phrase. Yes, the whole 'Black Lives Matter' movement is pathetic, utterly pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 Nice to see you've softened your attitude, I guess it's better being pathetic than complicit in murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekfaejapan Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Eisegerwind said: Nice to see you've softened your attitude, I guess it's better being pathetic than complicit in murder. I haven't softened my attitude on anything. Murder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, derekfaejapan said: I haven't softened my attitude on anything. Murder? Whit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 2 hours ago, derekfaejapan said: I haven't softened my attitude on anything. Murder? Be careful. Unless you agree on what the TAMB stance is from the comfort of a Scottish living room you're goosed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Ormond said: Be careful. Unless you agree on what the TAMB stance is from the comfort of a Scottish living room you're goosed. Yeah, suppose it looks different from the ghetto, blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: Yeah, suppose it looks different from the ghetto, blood. On a cold and grey Chi...... (fear of finishing that part in here.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 The whole thing is a mess. You can almost see why the polis are trigger happy when they get shot when attending a report of a house breakin by the person who phoned it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Obama condemned the shootings calling them 'despicable' I must have missed it when he condemned the cop for shooting FIVE TIMES the guy reaching for his driving licence in front of his wife and daughter. There is NO excuse for that - it is murder plain and simple. That is what provoked the revenge attacks. It is murder but the shooting of the cops would have happened eventually by the nutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny's Yard Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 4 hours ago, derekfaejapan said: Yes, the whole 'Black Lives Matter' movement is pathetic, utterly pathetic. Why do you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) Have people actaully watched the videos of the two latest incidents that are being held up as examples of the police just 'murdering' black people. The guy shot in the car...you do not see what happened to cause the shooting. It starts after he is shot so that is quite a leap to assume he was 'executed'. Also the police man who shot him is clearly very distressed at what has just happened. You can hear him shouting "F**K!" over and over all the way through it. They do make mistakes you know. Whatever happened I just don't see it that this guy callously shot a black man without giving a feck. Totally irresponsible to suggest so without clear evidence. The other incident we have a guy with a fairly substantial criminal record who the day before apparently bought an illegal gun (for self defense) and who within 24hrs of buying it then threatened a homeless man with it who subsequently called the police. The guy is then seen resisting arrest on the video and wrestling on the floor with the two cops with the gun in his pocket. How the feck people can conclude this is "murder" is beyond me. If I had a weapon and resisted arrest in the USA I would be fairly confident of the same fate. Well all this rush to judgment and fiery rhetoric delivered what they wanted. I have seen a few questionable incidents where cops have shot people far too quickly but this notion that they don't care about black people and shoot them willy nilly is a dangerous lie that has incited a serious problem. The media are hugely complicit as are politicians including Obama who has ruthlessly played the race card his whole term. The lie goes like this... Blacks account for 13% of the population... Blacks account for 24% of police shootings... therefore the police must be racist. Time and time again this pile of utter horseshit is trotted out by people who know exactly what they are doing. It is incitement pure and simple they are trying to provoke violence against the police and white people in general. It is votes to these whanks. So yeah fukk Black Lives Matter as an organisation. Edited July 10, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) This is from the statement from the BLM web site. Notice any differences in the words used? "The Black Lives Matter Network advocates for Dignity, Justice, and Respect. In the last few days, this country witnessed the recorded murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile at the hands of police, the latest victims in this country’s failed policing system. As we have done for decades, we marched and protested to highlight the urgent need to transform policing in America, to call for justice, transparency and accountability, and to demand that Black Lives Matter. In Dallas, many gathered to do the same, joining in a day of action with friends, family, and co-workers. Their efforts were cut short when a lone gunman targeted and attacked 11 police officers, killing five. This is a tragedy–both for those who have been impacted by yesterday’s attack and for our democracy." These people are at it, they are significantly responsible for what we saw in Dallas and I doubt it will be the last incident now the race fuse wire has been well lit. and ps here is the BLM website page page entitled "What We Believe". Interesting reading. Edited July 10, 2016 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 10, 2016 Author Share Posted July 10, 2016 Queer affirming, well that's dodgy as is a good bit more of the content. I think the BLM movement might have been a decent idea in theory, but it's been hijacked by racists, lunatics and uneducatedey morons. A black racist is just as bad as a white racist, and there seems to be a lot of them involved in this movement, they really aren't helping their cause. I think the two lunatic women shouting nonsense at a Bernie Sanders speech was posted on here, I doubt anyone watched that and felt empathy towards them, there's ways and means of getting stuff done, some people are way out of sync. The yanks need to get away from protecting police officers who are nothing more than legalised killers, prosecutions must start happening, there needs to be a massive change in their operations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 1 hour ago, thplinth said: Have people actaully watched the videos of the two latest incidents that are being held up as examples of the police just 'murdering' black people. The guy shot in the car...you do not see what happened to cause the shooting. It starts after he is shot so that is quite a leap to assume he was 'executed'. Also the police man who shot him is clearly very distressed at what has just happened. You can hear him shouting "F**K!" over and over all the way through it. They do make mistakes you know. Whatever happened I just don't see it that this guy callously shot a black man without giving a feck. Totally irresponsible to suggest so without clear evidence. The other incident we have a guy with a fairly substantial criminal record who the day before apparently bought an illegal gun (for self defense) and who within 24hrs of buying it then threatened a homeless man with it who subsequently called the police. The guy is then seen resisting arrest on the video and wrestling on the floor with the two cops with the gun in his pocket. How the feck people can conclude this is "murder" is beyond me. If I had a weapon and resisted arrest in the USA I would be fairly confident of the same fate. Well all this rush to judgment and fiery rhetoric delivered what they wanted. I have seen a few questionable incidents where cops have shot people far too quickly but this notion that they don't care about black people and shoot them willy nilly is a dangerous lie that has incited a serious problem. The media are hugely complicit as are politicians including Obama who has ruthlessly played the race card his whole term. The lie goes like this... Blacks account for 13% of the population... Blacks account for 24% of police shootings... therefore the police must be racist. Time and time again this pile of utter horseshit is trotted out by people who know exactly what they are doing. It is incitement pure and simple they are trying to provoke violence against the police and white people in general. It is votes to these whanks. So yeah fukk Black Lives Matter as an organisation. He shot him FIVE times; once could be seen as reasonable restraint but 5 times suggests intent to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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