biffer Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Well, I seem to be getting to work quicker, so keep the fecking thing shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Much as I wouldn't cross the road to see the royal family, I fail to see what prince Andrews cock has to do with the forth road bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Ugh, fkin disgusting pig of a woman Baillie on sunday politics, last thing you need to see on a sunday morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Ugh, fkin disgusting pig of a woman Baillie on sunday politics, last thing you need to see on a sunday morning. Hope she wasn't getting interviewed on the bridge. That would be another couple of years off it's lifespan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hope she wasn't getting interviewed on the bridge. That would be another couple of years off it's lifespan. Abnormal loads have been banned from the bridge since February fella... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Hope she wasn't getting interviewed on the bridge. That would be another couple of years off it's lifespan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Possibly the worst attempt at whataboutery I've ever seen. When you're in a hole, stop digging mate. Sorry missed this. I strongly beg to differ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Much as I wouldn't cross the road to see the royal family, I fail to see what prince Andrews cock has to do with the forth road bridge. Agree, but when you are distracted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Much as I wouldn't cross the road to see the royal family, I fail to see what prince Andrews cock has to do with the forth road bridge. I'm sure there's a joke in there about something linking a highly respected national treasure to a bunch of fannies but I can't quite work it out .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The political spat over this is rumbling on like an HGV over a truss end link... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/12048451/SNP-told-to-come-clean-over-Forth-road-bridge-closure.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The political spat over this is rumbling on like an HGV over a truss end link... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/12048451/SNP-told-to-come-clean-over-Forth-road-bridge-closure.html Looks like Labour's "smoking gun" Email might be a bit of a damp squib. http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-trick-is-to-keep-reading/ And some more here http://wingsoverscotland.com/lie-by-lie/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 The "leaked email" was sent by Barry Colford to Lesley Hinds who is a labour councillor and prospective Labour MSP candidate for Edinburgh North. If she thought it was such a big deal then why is she only "leaking" it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The "leaked email" was sent by Barry Colford to Lesley Hinds who is a labour councillor and prospective Labour MSP candidate for Edinburgh North. If she thought it was such a big deal then why is she only "leaking" it now? Politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Politics Exactly. Even I am starting to get a wee bit concerned about how inept the Labour party in Scotland has become. There are plenty other things that Labour could be politicking about against the SNP instead of rummaging aboot in somebody's drawers trying to find some dodgy "smoking gun" email to try to invent a story. Do they really think that forcing a Transport minister to resign over this, is going to help them at the ballot box next May? The thing is, they probably do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There certainly could be a lot of votes to win in Fife over this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There certainly could be a lot of votes to win in Fife over this... There would be if Labour could could find the right way to pin something on the SNP for this. But I'm not sure them spreading lies and half truths just trying the same old smear tactics is going to work. They need to tell folk what they would have done ( and would do in the future) differently. But the truth is, that they wouldn't have done anything different because they were involved in the decision making process and they know that the correct decisions were made at the time. The only difference is, that if it had been left up to Labour the new bridge wouldn't be getting built. I think most Fifers are well aware of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Exactly. Even I am starting to get a wee bit concerned about how inept the Labour party in Scotland has become. There are plenty other things that Labour could be politicking about against the SNP instead of rummaging aboot in somebody's drawers trying to find some dodgy "smoking gun" email to try to invent a story. Do they really think that forcing a Transport minister to resign over this, is going to help them at the ballot box next May? The thing is, they probably do. And the SNP never engage in politicking. However the Transport Minister position does seem to be a poisoned chalice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There certainly could be a lot of votes to win in Fife over this... Even more votes to win in Edinburgh by keeping Fifers out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The link below is actually quite a good overview of the chronology of events around the bridge over the past few years. http://forargyll.com/?p=103388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Labour would have been far better served putting huge amounts of pressure on over the government response, e.g. "What is the Scottish government doing to enable home and remote working for civil servants, ensuring the smooth running of government services and reducing pressure on alternative transport routes?", "What are the Scottish Government's Business Continuity plans and how have the helped ensure continued services in this difficult time?", "Has the Scottish Government considered leasing temporary office space in Fife for public sector workers in order to relieve pressure on the reduced transport infrastructure?". The response generally has been good, but there's always additional pressure points - "Has the SG looked into additional air ambulances to cope with emergency situations?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 And the SNP never engage in politicking. However the Transport Minister position does seem to be a poisoned chalice. Of course they do. They just happen to be better at it. In recent times at least. Even Labour folk must be a wee bit embarrassed about this latest "smoking gun" email fiasco. No? Aye, I think Derek Mackay might be required to run the 2016 election campaign. A very important job. I'm not sure it would be fair to ask him to do that and be Transport Minister at the same time. John Swinney will still be too busy negotiating fiscal frameworks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Even more votes to win in Edinburgh by keeping Fifers out. Aye, but the fifers are heading to Dundee for their xmas shopping instead. Just as well there is an ample surplus of SNP voters in Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 . The response generally has been good, but there's always additional pressure points - "Has the SG looked into additional air ambulances to cope with emergency situations?" Emergency vehicles can still use the FRB so they are probably getting about quicker than normal. They could still get caught up in traffic jams on other roads, I suppose . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Took me the best part of 4 hours to get back from St Andrews to Glasgow on Friday and about 2 hours of that was trying to get over the Clackmannan Bridge!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Took me the best part of 4 hours to get back from St Andrews to Glasgow on Friday and about 2 hours of that was trying to get over the Clackmannan Bridge!! Should have gone via Perth or A91 to Stirling. What time of day were you travelling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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