ParisInAKilt Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hopefully today are voting to legalise same sex marriage. Polls indicate YES will win . . . But the older population or the silent majority could win the day for no . . . Pretty sure it's the first country to ask people to vote on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hopefully today are voting to legalise same sex marriage. Polls indicate YES will win . . . But the older population or the silent majority could win the day for no . . . Pretty sure it's the first country to ask people to vote on this Hmm, sounds familiar (apart from the polls indicating a Yes win). I suspect Yes will win. Ireland is every bit a diverse, modern, western European country nowadays. And unlike here, their population is relatively young, which lessens the chances of the auld farts tipping the balance the other way. I was a bit surprised that it went to a public referendum though. A know it is a coalition government in Ireland at the moment, so maybe there are issues with having the legislation passed. The cynic in me says that the government is abdicating responsibility for making a big decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Aye that was interesting. As far as I know all the political parties support a yes vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Charlie Endell will be on an edge. Jesus Christ almighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I was a bit surprised that it went to a public referendum though. A know it is a coalition government in Ireland at the moment, so maybe there are issues with having the legislation passed. The cynic in me says that the government is abdicating responsibility for making a big decision. Any change to the Irish constitution requires a referendum. That law is the reason the Irish had referenda over the Nice/Lisbon treaties, while most (maybe all?) of Europe didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Hmm, sounds familiar (apart from the polls indicating a Yes win). I suspect Yes will win. Ireland is every bit a diverse, modern, western European country nowadays. And unlike here, their population is relatively young, which lessens the chances of the auld farts tipping the balance the other way. I was a bit surprised that it went to a public referendum though. A know it is a coalition government in Ireland at the moment, so maybe there are issues with having the legislation passed. The cynic in me says that the government is abdicating responsibility for making a big decision. Apparently it has gone to a referendum because it requires a change to the constitution. Nae idea why though. I guess their constitution must have some weird stuff in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Apparently it has gone to a referendum because it requires a change to the constitution. Nae idea why though. I guess their constitution must have some weird stuff in it? Aye, it talks about marriage as the foundation of the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Go on, vote Yes Ireland and put a smile on a lot of people's faces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Why is this our business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 22, 2015 Author Share Posted May 22, 2015 Why is this our business? Why is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Why is this our business? Why is anything "our business"? Some folk are just interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Why is this our business? I've got gay irish friends, that's why i'm looking on, i guess everyone else will have their own reasons, others will see it as none of their business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 So many folk heading back to Ireland to vote, always good to see people actively engaging. http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/irish-referendum-home-to-vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Apparently it has gone to a referendum because it requires a change to the constitution. Nae idea why though. I guess their constitution must have some weird stuff in it? Somewhere in the constitution it refers to marriage between 'man and a woman', which needs to be changed to 'two people'. ...or something along those lines Edited May 22, 2015 by thewelk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) So many folk heading back to Ireland to vote, always good to see people actively engaging. http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/irish-referendum-home-to-vote Guess they don't get postal votes in Ireland?No wonder Labour don't win there... Edited May 22, 2015 by Maq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 So did they repeal the ban on hunting gays or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Amazing how people are incapable of minding their own fkin business eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillinger Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Ricky Gervais https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gOmqNKAuYdM&sns=fb Louis CK https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-JZSyhWSc&sns=fb Patton Oswalt https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=bp4yu7HL8l4 All feckin hilarious! Get them watched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Any change to the Irish constitution requires a referendum. That law is the reason the Irish had referenda over the Nice/Lisbon treaties, while most (maybe all?) of Europe didn't. Apparently it has gone to a referendum because it requires a change to the constitution. Nae idea why though. I guess their constitution must have some weird stuff in it? Somewhere in the constitution it refers to marriage between 'man and a woman', which needs to be changed to 'two people'. ...or something along those lines Thanks for that lads, it makes a bit more sense now. It still seems strange that something like that should be included in a country's constitution though, but then then the Catholic church did (does?) have a massive amount of influence on life in Ireland. I mind watching a documentary about Irish music a few months ago which featured Sinead O'Connor, who said Ireland went from being colonised by the British to being colonised by the church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Guess they don't get postal votes in Ireland? No wonder Labour don't win there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why is this our business? We might finally get rid of Graham Norton. Anyway, it would appear that the Irish said Yes: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/referendum/ireland-says-yes-by-up-to-21-margin-31246520.html Good on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Thanks for that lads, it makes a bit more sense now. It still seems strange that something like that should be included in a country's constitution though, but then then the Catholic church did (does?) have a massive amount of influence on life in Ireland. I mind watching a documentary about Irish music a few months ago which featured Sinead O'Connor, who said Ireland went from being colonised by the British to being colonised by the church. Yep, the political leaders post-independence (the ones that weren't shot during the rebellion!) were very catholic, zealous even. The church was given a 'special position' in the constitution until the 1970s. It wasn't until 1993 that being gay was finally decriminalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 As long as Charlie Endell and Kenneth Farrington are happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Well done Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 It's set to be 65% Yes; 35% No according to RTÉ, however the Presidential Age referendum bill will be defeated by a similar margin (reducing the minimum age of Presidential candidates to 21, from 35). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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