AberdeenAngus Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Are any of us in a position to really know what goes on at any club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Moral equivalence, really?? http://news.stv.tv/west-central/308290-high-profile-scottish-football-figures-in-sweat-over-tax-avoidance-scheme/ Though he is getting lots of support from real Aberdeen supporters http://www.afc-chat.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=38416 'Equivalence'?!? Did you even read the article? And what's your point with the dons forum link? Some fans hate him? I suppose it's different from the hero worship that some hhuns have for a convicted tax crook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Are any of us in a position to really know what goes on at any club? There are innumerable experts on these matters on here. Certainly with relation to what was going on at Hearts over the years (although admittedly not as many as there are on Hibs.Net) and now I, and many of my colleagues, can forensically analyse the latest developments at Ibrox. Edited January 31, 2015 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 When you do that, Parklife, you can use the alternative spelling if you like. W*h*a*t*a*b*o*u*t*e*r*y For it to be whataboutery would I not have to be defending King's actions? My point is from a moral perspective it's the action of attempting to avoid paying your fair share of tax which is wrong so anyone who attempt to avoid paying tax from King to Milne to Take That to the BTC whether they are found guilty, innocent or eventually stump up are all in the same boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 For it to be whataboutery would I not have to be defending King's actions? My point is from a moral perspective it's the action of attempting to avoid paying your fair share of tax which is wrong so anyone who attempt to avoid paying tax from King to Milne to Take That to the BTC whether they are found guilty, innocent or eventually stump up are all in the same boat. Doesn't mean it's a good thing to have them in charge of your club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 For it to be whataboutery would I not have to be defending King's actions? No. You just need to point at something/one else and say "Aye, but what about.......". That's "whataboutery". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 No. You just need to point at something/one else and say "Aye, but what about.......". That's "whataboutery". Whataboutery. The constant excuse for those that don't like their criticisms reflected back onto themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Are any of us in a position to really know what goes on at any club?Stop being sensible and reasonable you! You'll get this board a bad name.One of the important things to learn from the Rangers debacle is that we can never really know what happens within the Boardrooms. You just have to decide if you trust the people in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Whataboutery. The constant excuse for those that don't like their criticisms reflected back onto themselves. I remember hearing a Unionist politician in Northern Ireland (sorry I can't remember which one) speaking on the radio. He said that progress between the two sides only started to be meaningful when both sides agreed to stop "whataboutery". He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that until that point, they never actually addressed an issue raised by either side, because they were too busy responding with "Aye, but what about...". It was only when they actually addressed the issue at hand, without resorting to whataboutery, that things started to move and get better, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibelieve!!! Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I remember hearing a Unionist politician in Northern Ireland (sorry I can't remember which one) speaking on the radio. He said that progress between the two sides only started to be meaningful when both sides agreed to stop "whataboutery". He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that until that point, they never actually addressed an issue raised by either side, because they were too busy responding with "Aye, but what about...". It was only when they actually addressed the issue at hand, without resorting to whataboutery, that things started to move and get better, So you're saying that Rangers should copy things from Northern Ireland to move forward? Now that's not something you expect to hear everyday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So you're saying that Rangers should copy things from Northern Ireland to move forward? Now that's not something you expect to hear everyday!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 No. You just need to point at something/one else and say "Aye, but what about.......". That's "whataboutery". So the ability to compare and contrast is whataboutery and not critical evaluation? That is the most preposterous statement you have made, given metallurgists don't need to engage in much critical evaluation but really that's quite pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 So the ability to compare and contrast is whataboutery and not critical evaluation? That is the most preposterous statement you have made, given metallurgists don't need to engage in much critical evaluation but really that's quite pathetic. Preposterous and pathetic. Jings. It's not been my best night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Jonathan Northcroft @JNorthcroft Mike Ashley: lend Rangers money, lend Rangers players, use loaned £££ to pay loan players. Who you were already paying anyway. Light cigar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Jonathan Northcroft @JNorthcroft Mike Ashley: lend Rangers money, lend Rangers players, use loaned £££ to pay loan players. Who you were already paying anyway. Light cigar. That tweet misses out that it justifies the board taking Ashley's loan for the reason given ie to sign new players. What a farce. The sooner we have this egm the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Bruce cant be ersed trawling through the thread,when is the egm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Bruce cant be ersed trawling through the thread,when is the egm Possibly between pages 187 to 193 ? Edited February 3, 2015 by fringo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Bruce cant be ersed trawling through the thread,when is the egm No date set yet. Under the companies act, the board have 21 days from the request for the egm to set down the date of the egm hich must be within 28 days from the notice setting down the date.On that basis, If the request for the egm was made on 16 January then the date must be set down by Friday and the egm must be held by 6 March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Possibly between pages 187 to 193 ? No date set yet. Under the companies act, the board have 21 days from the request for the egm to set down the date of the egm hich must be within 28 days from the notice setting down the date. On that basis, If the request for the egm was made on 16 January then the date must be set down by Friday and the egm must be held by 6 March. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) cheers I was only joking Langtonian. Like you I've not read 200+ pages. I hope you're not searching for it now It was just a pisstake of the whole situation. Edited February 3, 2015 by fringo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) fringo i knew you were jesting i replied from my ipad and smilie didnt appear Edited February 4, 2015 by Langtonian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 5 loan players in one go from Newcastle. Ashley certainly isn't taking the piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.mccole Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 5 loan players in one go from Newcastle. Ashley certainly isn't taking the piss. Who is paying the loan Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Who is paying the loan Rangers I think there's varying theories on this. Quite an amusing one is that Rangers are paying the wages to Newcastle using the money that Mike Ashley lent them, off the back of him apparently loaning them money to pay back a Mike Ashley loan, it all seems to go back to mike ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I think there's varying theories on this. Quite an amusing one is that Rangers are paying the wages to Newcastle using the money that Mike Ashley lent them, off the back of him apparently loaning them money to pay back a Mike Ashley loan, it all seems to go back to mike ashley. there is one person running and controlling the club - ashley. the sfa once again have been given the runaround. If i was hearts or hibs or other div 1 clubs i would not be overly happy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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