Flure Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sorry to break it to you, but they are... and a third of the Irish are from the nation Northern Ireland. So same rules apply to McLean That's only true if we can all determine, and agree, what constitutes " a nation". Let us all know how you get on with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 That's only true if we can all determine, and agree, what constitutes " a nation". Let us all know how you get on with that. This thread would reach 100 pages... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sorry to break it to you, but they are... and a third of the Irish are from the nation Northern Ireland. So same rules apply to McLean Ha ha ha ah Lichtie you really haven't a clue do you? Even the staunchest knuckle dragging loyalist doesn't consider N.I. a nation. If anything they would consider Great Britain as their nation given their allegiences. Just to educate you a wee bit. Wales and Scotland are nations and so is Ireland. N.I. the UK and the Republic are only jurisdictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Ha ha ha ah Lichtie you really haven't a clue do you? Even the staunchest knuckle dragging loyalist doesn't consider N.I. a nation. If anything they would consider Great Britain as their nation given their allegiences. Just to educate you a wee bit. Wales and Scotland are nations and so is Ireland. N.I. the UK and the Republic are only jurisdictions. Great Britain ain't a nation though.... It's an island. So you really ain't educating me. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England and ROI are all nations, 4 are in a political union, 1 ain't. That simple don't see why it's such a big deal to you it's like you guys don't recognise NI? Not saying any more on it as thread will go wayyyyyyy off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie fae Larbert Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 And what's the name of the Island he was born in? I'll give you a clue it's the second word of the 'country' of Northern Ireland. Aye right. Islands are countries now are they? I think if the shoe was on the other foot, you wouldn't exactly be delighted. Hope you don't get upset when Northern Ireland become world footballing giants and half of Dublin want to play for them........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Aye right. Islands are countries now are they? I think if the shoe was on the other foot, you wouldn't exactly be delighted. Hope you don't get upset when Northern Ireland become world footballing giants and half of Dublin want to play for them........... Eh? Whit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Great Britain ain't a nation though.... It's an island. So you really ain't educating me. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, England and ROI are all nations, 4 are in a political union, 1 ain't. That simple don't see why it's such a big deal to you it's like you guys don't recognise NI? Not saying any more on it as thread will go wayyyyyyy off topic. Ah ffs are you for real?! The loyalists consider themselves British so Britain and Britishness are the identity they align themselves too.They would see themselves as part of the British nation. Personally I don't regard Britain as a nation due to the fact you have 3 distinct peoples,cultures,languages etc etc within that Island. That's what makes the loyalist/Unionist outlook so ridiculous. There is a difference between being a Unionist and being British. I don't regard unionists/loyalist/protestants as British even if they do because they are Irish. There were Irish unionists long before the made up gerrymandered entity of N.I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Can we move this crap to a non football section ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Apologies lads for bringing it off topic. Always hard not to respond to ignorance. Anyway lets get back saying what a cxxt McGeady is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Apologies lads for bringing it off topic. Always hard not to respond to ignorance. Anyway lets get back saying what a cxxt McGeady is Well there's a whole section - any other business - for geography, nations, politics, conspiracy theories, comets, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Anyway he's a dirty wee shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 That was superb, wasn't it. And I can't be alone, can I, when I say that when McGeady had the ball at his feet and turned on the speed he had me holding my breath. Having said that, I think, as I thought when he was at Celtic, that he promises much but delivers little. You weren't, especially in that 15 minute spell in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well there's a whole section - any other business - for geography, nations, politics, conspiracy theories, comets, etc. I'll have to go all Billy Joel on it 'I didn't start the fire' boys and I acknowledged I facilitated taking it off topic. A pity McGeady's shot didn't go in as it would've completely sickened your boo boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Apologies lads for bringing it off topic. Always hard not to respond to ignorance. Anyway lets get back saying what a cxxt McGeady is Ironic as I found your comments ignorant. But aye, McGeadys a bawbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Ha ha ha ah Lichtie you really haven't a clue do you? Even the staunchest knuckle dragging loyalist doesn't consider N.I. a nation. If anything they would consider Great Britain as their nation given their allegiences. Just to educate you a wee bit. Wales and Scotland are nations and so is Ireland. N.I. the UK and the Republic are only jurisdictions. Well the 2011 census doesn't quite agree with you as the percentage of people who consider themselves northern Irish is around the same as those who consider themselves Irishhttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Northern_Ireland#Religion Edited November 16, 2014 by Blantyre_Braveheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Well the 2011 census doesn't quite agree with you as the percentage of people who consider themselves northern Irish is around the same as those who consider themselves Irishhttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Northern_Ireland#Religion Ehm word of advice don't EVER quote wikipedia when trying to back up a point. 'Northern Irish' isn't a nationality. I'm from the west of Ireland but I don't call myself 'Western Irish' so Northern Irish is a redundant term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ironic as I found your comments ignorant. But aye, McGeadys a bawbag Lichtie do yourself a favour and stick to talking about your national team rather than Irish history and political matters because they're certainly not your forte. Anyway back to McGeady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ehm word of advice don't EVER quote wikipedia when trying to back up a point. 'Northern Irish' isn't a nationality. I'm from the west of Ireland but I don't call myself 'Western Irish' so Northern Irish is a redundant term. Western Ireland isn't a nation though. How's Northern Irish not a nationality??? It's a completely different state from the Republic the only thing you two share is the island. I'm the ignorant one?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I'll have to go all Billy Joel on it 'I didn't start the fire' boys and I acknowledged I facilitated taking it off topic. A pity McGeady's shot didn't go in as it would've completely sickened your boo boys. I meant it positively = the issue of 'what is a nation' has been the subject of probably thousands of posts this year elsewhere on here... and some might be interested in your take on it. and comets too - possibly even more interesting than aiden mcgeady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Western Ireland isn't a nation though. How's Northern Irish not a nationality??? It's a completely different state from the Republic the only thing you two share is the island. I'm the ignorant one?!?!? Lichtie start a thread in your AOB section and i'll happily debate with you. Your confusing states,countries and nations as the same thing. Northern Ireland is a state obviously but it's not a nation or a country.It's a colonised part of my country and part of my nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ehm word of advice don't EVER quote wikipedia when trying to back up a point. 'Northern Irish' isn't a nationality. I'm from the west of Ireland but I don't call myself 'Western Irish' so Northern Irish is a redundant term. South Sudan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 South Sudan? To be honest with you I don't know a huge amount about Sudan/South Sudan. I don't think it's a fair comparison as there are different tribes with different cultures. This is a completely different context. I worked with a Nigerian when I was in college and he told me there were hundreds of different languages in Nigeria so any modern day African country whose straight line borders were defined by their colonial masters really shouldn't apply when talking about Northern Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Lichtie start a thread in your AOB section and i'll happily debate with you. Your confusing states,countries and nations as the same thing. Northern Ireland is a state obviously but it's not a nation or a country.It's a colonised part of my country and part of my nation. Your country is the REPUBLIC OF IRELAND, NOT IRELAND. Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland. Republic of Ireland is the other country on that island. That's why Northern Ireland have an interNATIONal football team. It really is that simple. Why do the republicans think they own the whole island now? My biology teacher was from Belfast and made sure everybody knew that he was Northern Irish and British. Nobody's talking about McGeady now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Your country is the REPUBLIC OF IRELAND, NOT IRELAND. Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland. Republic of Ireland is the other country on that island. That's why Northern Ireland have an interNATIONal football team. It really is that simple. Why do the republicans think they own the whole island now? My biology teacher was from Belfast and made sure everybody knew that he was Northern Irish and British. Nobody's talking about McGeady now anyway. Please Lichtie go on and post this nonsense on the Irish forum and see what the response is. Your biology teacher wasn't Jim Allister's lovechild by any chance? Given your lack of knowledge in this matter where you'll probably have to google Allister, there's really nothing else to say. Start a topic on the other AOB section as this is a McGeady thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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