McDange Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The feel good factor is well and truly back but every game is a big game in such a tight group. I saw on another thread that by March the top 4 teams could all have 10 points. The 2nd half of the campaign will be absolutely massive with a trick double header in September with Georgia away then Germany home. If we do well in them though the Poland game in October could be our most important game in recent history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 it now appears that Poland will storm through the group barring major disasters They've still to go to Ireland, Scotland and Germany. Plus we're currently ahead of them on head to head. Appreciate they look impressive going forward but I think it's a bit early to say they'll storm the group... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goozay Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Poland are not storming this group, they've dropped points at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 They've still to go to Ireland, Scotland and Germany. Plus we're currently ahead of them on head to head. Appreciate they look impressive going forward but I think it's a bit early to say they'll storm the group... Agreed. The flukey Germany result aside, Poland have done nothing more than expected. In fact, they expected to beat us. Poland hammering Georgia means nothing, especially since their manager planned on quitting before the game. 1-0 flattered Georgia, when we beat them. It could have easily been 4-0. Germany even admitted that we played better than Poland and the scorelines didn't reflect either game. That 2-2 draw is going to be pivotal! I would argue that was Strachan's biggest game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Fantastic we are arguing about the most important scotland result to date. What a difference from previous campaigns where we have got off to such a poor starts under vogts, burley and leviene. "GINGER PUBES ARE ACCEPTABLE!, WE LOVE GINGER PUBES!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Think game in Dublin could/will be bigger and more important. Way fixtures in March work, will either be 4 teams on 10 points, or starting to put some space between us and Ireland. Avoid defeat in Dublin and 3rd place is ours, and if we can pick up something against Germany, then chances of making 2nd place have improved. Regarding our results, we are in the position after 4 games I expected us to be in, it's just Ireland and Poland getting something off Germany that has made things a little bit more complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 "GINGER PUBES ARE ACCEPTABLE!, WE LOVE GINGER PUBES!!" Too far, mate. Too far....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 "Poland hammering Georgia means nothing" yep go there and get such result get ANY win in Tbilisi and we can come back to this quoted statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Poland are far superior to Ireland.All home matches ,including Germany in present form,must be won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Poland are far superior to Ireland.All home matches ,including Germany in present form,must be won. Poland so far look a better team than Ireland but think far superior is too much. If Ireland took 4 points off Poland I wouldn't be that surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I would.Ireland hoofed it non stop.I'd hate it if we played like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ireland have to prove they can get results at home Their style of play has suited them in away games but it will be much different at home against Poland and Germany where they have to take the game to the opposition a bit more It may not be an advantage as O'Neill suggests and when he inferred that im not sure he believed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I would.Ireland hoofed it non stop.I'd hate it if we played like that. It wasn't pretty but it can be effective at times Edited November 16, 2014 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 But very boring don't you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menschlich Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 But very boring don't you agree? Don't think the Irish would care about that too much if they qualified. We wouldn't have when we played like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If we had kept playing like in Prague and Brussels I would have stopped going.WGS at least gives us a chance to win games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 "Poland hammering Georgia means nothing" yep go there and get such result get ANY win in Tbilisi and we can come back to this quoted statement. You must see that you played them at the best possible time? Their setup is in disarray. We'll be disadvantaged by coming up against a, potentially, rejuvenated Georgia. But saying that, we will beat them away. I am certain. Yes, we only beat them 1-0, but it was 1-0 going on 4-0. Do you not feel like a score draw at home almost completely undid your victory against Germany? 3 unexpected points gained followed by 2 unexpected points dropped. Don't be surprised if we are neck and neck near the end. I look forward to the home match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Poland have Ireland, Germany and us away. They'll win or draw in Dublin, lose in Germany so what we do v them at home could be massive. Imagine we were going to Gibraltar one point behind Poland who's last game was Ireland who were 1 point behind us.... A wee draw there and party time in Portugal haha!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 The thread tital is slightly cringe inducing. Having got a feel for the group we should be finishing top 2. 3rd while not a total disaster would be disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintlyscot Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Meant 2 post the above in 3rd place topic. Woops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menschlich Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Poland have Ireland, Germany and us away. They'll win or draw in Dublin, lose in Germany so what we do v them at home could be massive. Imagine we were going to Gibraltar one point behind Poland who's last game was Ireland who were 1 point behind us.... A wee draw there and party time in Portugal haha!! Wouldn't really matter if Ireland were 1 point behind us at that point. If the beat Poland, they still couldn't finish above us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320lichtie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Wouldn't really matter if Ireland were 1 point behind us at that point. If the beat Poland, they still couldn't finish above us. I know but that would put Poland out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You must see that you played them at the best possible time? Their setup is in disarray. We'll be disadvantaged by coming up against a, potentially, rejuvenated Georgia. But saying that, we will beat them away. I am certain. Yes, we only beat them 1-0, but it was 1-0 going on 4-0. Do you not feel like a score draw at home almost completely undid your victory against Germany? 3 unexpected points gained followed by 2 unexpected points dropped. You played Germany at the best possible time but didn`t even draw. If you feel so confident about Georgia you might get suprised. Very difficult team to break with few technically good players up front. And no, i don`t feel Scotland draw "undid" our victory vs Germany. "3 unexpected points gained followed by 2 unexpected points dropped" as you said is still one point more gained than we actually predicted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You played Germany at the best possible time but didn`t even draw. If you feel so confident about Georgia you might get suprised. Very difficult team to break with few technically good players up front. And no, i don`t feel Scotland draw "undid" our victory vs Germany. "3 unexpected points gained followed by 2 unexpected points dropped" as you said is still one point more gained than we actually predicted I won't play down your results so far but equally I won't be in panic-mode when you come to Hampden. In recent years your qualifying record has been even worse than ours and that is saying something. Sure, this may be your rebirth who knows but until we see you complete the task in hand then forgive me if I don't see you as the real deal just yet. Besides even in our dark times in recent years we have still been able to beat teams of higher calibre than yourselves such as Croatia, France, Ukraine, Germany and Netherlands so we have good reason to hold out more than a bit of hope of turning you over at Hampden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 But I`m not confident. Many guys here are though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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