Kirk Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I've got cruise control but unless you're on an empty-ish stretch of motorway there's no point in switching it on - in normal motorway traffic you have to keep adjusting your speed due to encountering someone moving slower than yourself. Yea unless its dead its a waste of time. I don't really like it, takes away from the enjoyment of driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Mine doesn't have cruise control, but you can limit the speed, which isn't as good, but means I can set it at 72 from Stirling to Perth and just take my foot off the accelerator when someone pulls out in front of me, and when I speed up it won't let me go over 72, unless you floor the accelerator and over ride it. Quite easy to get to 80+ without even realising otherwise. (Got done doing 86 on that road a few years ago, the one and only time I've felt I was caught fair and square) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Yea unless its dead its a waste of time. I don't really like it, takes away from the enjoyment of driving. It's good on stretches like the 50mph section of the a77 between killie and prestwick. I presume once they finish the work on that (bridges so you don't need to cross the dual carriageway to turn right) it will increase to 70mph? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Agree with Huddersfield, peoples perception of their driving ability is usually over stated and is comparable to us gamblers who suffer same illusion. I drive only when necessary, so maybe I am the wrong person to judge. Flora will soon be adding loss of car to loss of golf clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 How the feckdo those average speed cameras work anyway - I mean you just face an endless string of them it seems so how do you know when it begins and ends? Are they those yellow things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Are they those yellow things?Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) It's good on stretches like the 50mph section of the a77 between killie and prestwick. I presume once they finish the work on that (bridges so you don't need to cross the dual carriageway to turn right) it will increase to 70mph? The improvements have been finished for almost a year! No sign of the limit changing yet... Edited February 12, 2015 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Martin Williams @Martin1Williams Scots licensed trade calls for "fairer" drink-drive penalties as sales drop by up to 60% in wake of new limits http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/doomsday-warning-for-scots-pubs-as-alcohol-sales-drop-by-60-per-cent-after-introducti.118412135 … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Martin Williams @Martin1Williams Scots licensed trade calls for "fairer" drink-drive penalties as sales drop by up to 60% in wake of new limits http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/doomsday-warning-for-scots-pubs-as-alcohol-sales-drop-by-60-per-cent-after-introducti.118412135 I'd imagine it will have killed off a lot of the trade at tea time, folk nipping in for a pint in the way home. Also folk who would go for a meal and have a glass of wine or whatever. I can see it impacting on the bowling club come the start of the season, as traditionally you will have a drink with your opponent after a match, but during the week most folk come by car. I used to take 1 bottle of beer, now it'll be a can of juice. (Not saying it makes the law wrong, just observations) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I'd imagine it will have killed off a lot of the trade at tea time, folk nipping in for a pint in the way home. Also folk who would go for a meal and have a glass of wine or whatever. I can see it impacting on the bowling club come the start of the season, as traditionally you will have a drink with your opponent after a match, but during the week most folk come by car. I used to take 1 bottle of beer, now it'll be a can of juice. (Not saying it makes the law wrong, just observations) My family own a pub and the dinner time crowd has dwindled big time. As you say folk nipping in for one or two on the way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teecee- Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Changes only beneficial with festive season drop in convictions. A bottle of normal strength beer will not put you over as less than 60% of a pint. You reading too many Charles Endell paranoia posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Changes only beneficial with festive season drop in convictions. A bottle of normal strength beer will not put you over as less than 60% of a pint. You reading too many Charles Endell paranoia posts. What was the drop in fatalities caused by drink driving December 2014 compared to previous years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Changes only beneficial with festive season drop in convictions. A bottle of normal strength beer will not put you over as less than 60% of a pint. You reading too many Charles Endell paranoia posts. It's probably a gamble though. I rely on my car to do my job, so it's not worth it. Think it has focused the attention of folk, which is good. Sure there's folk who would have been over the old limit regularly who are now much more thoughtful. 2 pints would've put you over the old limit, I'd imagine 1, certainly 1 1/2 would be a gamble at the old limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It's a strange thing. We had a work night out in Seamill Hydro, and the polis came the next morning to breathalise folk. A TA stalwart (who shall remain nameless) must have had 18 pints the night before, and he passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 A journalist pal of mine was preparing a pre-Xmas feature for his paper on the dangers of morning after driving (old limit right enough). As part of the research he and several colleagues got blootered the night before and were breathalysed the next day. All passed no problem. The polis told them not to run the story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 It's a strange thing. We had a work night out in Seamill Hydro, and the polis came the next morning to breathalise folk. A TA stalwart (who shall remain nameless) must have had 18 pints the night before, and he passed.Being 20-odd stone probably worked in his favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caledonian1 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Martin Williams @Martin1Williams Scots licensed trade calls for "fairer" drink-drive penalties as sales drop by up to 60% in wake of new limits http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/doomsday-warning-for-scots-pubs-as-alcohol-sales-drop-by-60-per-cent-after-introducti.118412135 … Suspect that is a gross exaggeration....i recall when the smoking ban came into effect (March 2006?) There was an article in the Evening Express about the auchmill bar closing and the owner blamed closure on the smoking ban. The fact was that the smoking ban came in on a wednesday and the pub closed the next day.....he hadn't even waited to see what weekend trade might be. I believe it was a complete dive and completely empty most of the time anyway so this was a convenient excuse, something to moan about and cover up bad management / not giving customers what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 If 60% of pub customers are potential drink drivers then the alcohol problem in this country is worse than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Would be interesting to see how many people have been prosecuted within the new limit and old limit. I'd imagine most folk who are over the limit are way over. Maybe the Scotsman can enlighten us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
min Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Would be interesting to see how many people have been prosecuted within the new limit and old limit. I'd imagine most folk who are over the limit are way over. Maybe the Scotsman can enlighten us? Over the festive period, 351 motorists were caught in Scotland and 20 of those were between the old and new limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 A journalist pal of mine was preparing a pre-Xmas feature for his paper on the dangers of morning after driving (old limit right enough). As part of the research he and several colleagues got blootered the night before and were breathalysed the next day. All passed no problem. The polis told them not to run the story... There is no doubt in my mind that the risk of failing the breath test has been grossly exaggerated, especially for the morning after. I keep hearing the quote that "the only safe limit is no alcohol at all". There are plenty of scientific studies which show that quote to be bollox, Unless somebody has a medical condition, the standard rule of 1 unit every hour is pretty much accepted amongst researchers. It gets a bit more complicated when trying to judge how much you can have and then drive immediately after. That's where there are big variations between individuals and whether you've just eaten or not. I used to think that most folk would get away with 2 pints under the old limit so 1 should be OK with the new limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 one unit per hour is the rule of thumb - but younger/fitter folk with a decent thyroid gland and liver will metabolise the alcohol quicker e.g. bottle of rum (70cl) = approx 30 units ... about 3 units will be given off in sweat/piss& breath leaving about 27 units/hours on the rule of thumb to be back to zero - in truth can be a lot shorter (or longer) dependent upon your physiology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I was out in Bristol on Monday night and drank Wednesday and Thursday at Cheltenham racecourse - even though I abstained yesterday and it is roughly 40hrs since my last drink I'm still erring on the side of caution (although I feel totally 'normal'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Even with the new limit Scotland is still pretty high versus the rest of Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_driving_law_by_country#Europe Looks like only Malta and England allow 80mg per 100ml now. In comaprison.Romania allows you 0mg and gives you a prison sentence of 1-5 years depending how far above 80mg you are. It is quite a steep reduction in Scotland from 80mg to 50mg a 37.5% drop and that is what is causing the fear. It is killing the non city centre pub game which was already having a sore time of it. They should have maybe transitioned into it over three years say, 10mg reduction per year. Edited March 13, 2015 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I was at a funeral a few weeks back & tried out the breathalyser I had ordered the next day. I had 6 bottles of Magners between 4pm & 8pm then half a bottle of red wine between 8pm & 10pm. All I had to eat in this time was a couple of sandwiches & a sausage roll. The next morning at 7:50am the breathalyser read 1.6, at 8:20am 1.4, at 9:20am 0.8 and at 9:50am 0.4. There is no question I would have driven to work at 8:30am if I hadn't had the breathalyser as I felt totally fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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