fanatyk Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Germany was expexted to be on top with 9 points. Beauty of football, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Bloody hell, remember Levein, we'd be lucky if we'd seen a striker by now. Dont... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 We are where we would want to have been at the start of the campaign. It is just Ireland and Poland are ahead of where they would have expected to be. Don't forget, they have both played Gibraltar, so you can basically remove 3 points from their total because everyone will pump them. In other words Scotland, Germany, Poland and RoI are all on 4 points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Have to say our record in games against home nations and yes I put roi in that category is pish!! But still think come the end of this year we will be there or thereabouts. You're right! Thinking back to the 80s it's 1 win in 11 competitive games v England, Wales and both Irelands, and it was at Wembley too. 6 defeats! Edited October 14, 2014 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_Zeppelin Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Dont... Sore head, darling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kps022000 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Far far too much negativity around here just now. As it stands, 7 points - Ireland, Poland 4 points - Scotland, Germany Next round is Poland away to Georgia (3 points Poland), Germany home to Gib (3 points Germany) and we have a very winnable home(ish) game to Ireland (3 points Scotland) 10 points - Poland 7 points - Ireland, Scotland, Germany March games are Scotland home to Gib (3 points and 7 goals please), Germany away to Georgia (3 points Germany), Ireland home to Poland (3 points Ireland). 10 points - Scotland, Poland, Germany, Ireland. This group is still all to play for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'd be feeling much better if Ireland hasn't got their two late goals. However, we have our first tricky must-win match next month. It's a big test against a much-improved Irish side. This group will have plenty more surprises in store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kps022000 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Far far too much negativity around here just now. As it stands, 7 points - Ireland, Poland 4 points - Scotland, Germany Next round is Poland away to Georgia (3 points Poland), Germany home to Gib (3 points Germany) and we have a very winnable home(ish) game to Ireland (3 points Scotland) 10 points - Poland 7 points - Ireland, Scotland, Germany March games are Scotland home to Gib (3 points and 7 goals please), Germany away to Georgia (3 points Germany), Ireland home to Poland (3 points Ireland). 10 points - Scotland, Poland, Germany, Ireland. This group is still all to play for! Whilst I am at it,Scotland will have played Poland and Germany away, Ireland at home. Ireland will have played Scotland and Germany away, Poland at home. Poland will have played Ireland away, Germany and Scotland at home. Germany will have played Poland away, Scotland and Ireland at home. Ifs and buts of course. Edited October 14, 2014 by kps022000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy123 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That Germany side you played tonight was much changed from World Cup and our game against them. Was almost a B side. Good results for you guys so far but I think we are the better side. Biased? Maybes. 6 of the world cup winning side was present,so far from a B side,we were missing Coleman and McCarthy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 If Germany hadn't been so pish I would be delighted. Still its a very good start, beat Ireland next month and its very much game on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's far too early to be predicting results, but I think we sit in a decent position. We have a long way to go of course, but they need 3pts against Ireland. It's a bit rich to be writing off Ireland as sponny/lucky or whatnot, when in the last 4-5 years they've proven they are winners. Might not play pretty at times, and leave it late, but they've gone to many places where we could have in the past came unstuck and got results. There is absolutlely nothing in it between us and them and to be writing them off as 4pts isn't right. It's been a decent start. We've been to Poland and Germany and got 1pt - I think most of us would have taken that. Tonight really was "a funny old game" as we're left feeling we are unlucky not to win, yet lucky to have the point in the end. Although Poland and Ireland are sitting pretty. They both have played Gibraltar - we have not. I'm never one to to slag the minnows - Liechtenstein and the Faroes are tremendous hard working and decent teams who reguarly do well and pick up points, even wins, but Gibraltar, the day is too young for them and this will be a campaign of learning for them. They will not win a game this campaign, or even get a point. They may not even score a goal. A long way to go. A lot of reasons to be optimistic. Having seeing Germany, they look the worst out of the top four , still plenty of time and games to see what happens. 3 pts would be vital. We could end up all cancelling each other out with draws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I've always felt we need 10+ from Georgia & Gibrlatar and 10+ from Germany, Ireland and Poland. We are on course for that although the dropped points in Dortmund are looking worse now than last week. Stupid ref! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ireland in Dublin is a (can I say it) "must win". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ireland in Dublin is a (can I say it) "must win". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Yes you can (twice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ireland in Dublin is a (can I say it) "must win". Can you say it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_fadiator Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 no it's not unless we drop points at home v Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ireland in Dublin is a (can I say it) "must win". I don't agree. Gib H&A, Geo A, Ire H, Pol H are all must win. That would give us 19 points. Another point or 3 from Ger H, Ire A would be enough for top 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peedie Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Luck? Ireland fully deserved that goal. Nice little draw in Glasgow and we're on our way x If you are talking about tonight then you were watching a different game, if you are talking about Georgia game then a wonder goal won what was a poor performance from you. I am "slightly" biased but I think we will beat you in both ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy123 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 If you are talking about tonight then you were watching a different game, if you are talking about Georgia game then a wonder goal won what was a poor performance from you. I am "slightly" biased but I think we will beat you in both ties. Unlike the Poland game,the Germans had few clear cut chances, we did not deserve to lose. As for Scotland beating us twice, we will have to see about that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Unlike the Poland game,the Germans had few clear cut chances, we did not deserve to lose. As for Scotland beating us twice, we will have to see about that... I don't think many of us think we'll beat you twice. I think Ireland are the luckiest international side going and things are going their way so far in this campaign. I'd take 3 points from Ireland and would be ecstatic with 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't think many of us think we'll beat you twice. I think Ireland are the luckiest international side going and things are going their way so far in this campaign. I'd take 3 points from Ireland and would be ecstatic with 4. 4 points from Ireland and 4 from Poland would probably be enough to take us 2nd. Right now, I'm confident we can do that. But players form changes in the months between matches and a solid looking team can seem a lot weaker very quickly. Same goes for Ireland, though. Scotland are on the rise. We'll hopefully have Snodgrass, Forrest and Mulgrew as additional options for the 2nd half of the campaign, plus more experience gained for the younger guys. By all accounts, we should get stronger as the campaign goes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertador-de-Escocia Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 We'll hopefully have Snodgrass, Forrest and Mulgrew as additional options for the 2nd half of the campaign, plus more experience gained for the younger guys. By all accounts, we should get stronger as the campaign goes on. Was Mulgrew banned for 2 games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Even with the great starts by Ireland and Poland (v Germany), I think it'll be as tight as a gnat's chuff between the 3 of us for 2nd & 3rd (with Germany top). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Was Mulgrew banned for 2 games? Just 1 but he had surgery on his knee. He might be back for the Ireland game. Possibly Forrest as well, but we can probably assume he'll get injured again. Think of the pace we'd have in the team with Anya and Forrest on each flank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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