bonzo Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Hamburg meine perle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Bates will bench warm. The person previous comparing him to McKenna isn’t far wrong....a run of the mill footballer that will never be a great player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 17 hours ago, aaid said: I think your first point is arguable, I'm not sure Bundesliga 2 is a higher level than the SPFL. Aye, very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 17 hours ago, aaid said: I think your first point is arguable, I'm not sure Bundesliga 2 is a higher level than the SPFL. C'mon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 37 minutes ago, Bino's said: C'mon Seen many Bundesliga 2 games have you? I have and the standard is pretty rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 HSV fans didn't take being relegated too well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dont think I've ever seen that many polizei at a football match before. Bonkers stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borojock Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 5 hours ago, McDange said: HSV fans didn't take being relegated too well. I believe that photo was taken just after the stadium announcer confirmed Bates had signed for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I can't wait for the campaign to get rid of the current manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 12:12 PM, macy37 said: Bates will bench warm. The person previous comparing him to McKenna isn’t far wrong....a run of the mill footballer that will never be a great player. Thing is.. we have a massive shortage of average central defenders. If Bates can go out there, and develop into a half decent, if not incredible, defender.. then that's good for us. Muglrew and Berra don't have long left.. and at that point, we'll need someone like Bates to step up. McKenna and Hendry look like they might make the grade, which is great. but we need some others to kick on.. Lindsay, Bates, Hanley.. and then we get into the Souttar's, Findlay and McCrorie, who feel like they have a long way to go to me.. and then there's not very much at all. Some very young lads at Hearts who may or may not make the grade in the Scottish Prem. So yeah.. an 'ok' defender would be most welcome right now. And if Bates develops into a decent, disciplined, Bundesliga defender in a few years time, then fantastic. He does look like he has the tools, let's just hope his new coach will help him develop and make use of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 22 hours ago, andyD said: Dont think I've ever seen that many polizei at a football match before. Bonkers stuff. I watched this game and the police were clearly anticipating this. Within seconds they were in position, was really impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/15/2018 at 6:08 PM, andyD said: Thing is.. we have a massive shortage of average central defenders. If Bates can go out there, and develop into a half decent, if not incredible, defender.. then that's good for us. Muglrew and Berra don't have long left.. and at that point, we'll need someone like Bates to step up. McKenna and Hendry look like they might make the grade, which is great. but we need some others to kick on.. Lindsay, Bates, Hanley.. and then we get into the Souttar's, Findlay and McCrorie, who feel like they have a long way to go to me.. and then there's not very much at all. Some very young lads at Hearts who may or may not make the grade in the Scottish Prem. So yeah.. an 'ok' defender would be most welcome right now. And if Bates develops into a decent, disciplined, Bundesliga defender in a few years time, then fantastic. He does look like he has the tools, let's just hope his new coach will help him develop and make use of them. McCrorie is never a Centre Half in my opinion. Has the potential to be a very decent holding midfielder though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mitre said: McCrorie is never a Centre Half in my opinion. Has the potential to be a very decent holding midfielder though. Nope, never. Appreciate he is young but when he has been thrown in at CB this season, he has been average at best. When playing DM he has been very good most of the time. Def suits him better there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 4 hours ago, BlueGaz said: Nope, never. Appreciate he is young but when he has been thrown in at CB this season, he has been average at best. When playing DM he has been very good most of the time. Def suits him better there. He will put on more bulk in the next 2 or 3 years and could yet play centre half, but I agree he has more potential in midfield. He could also play right back, as he has the pace and technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlueGaz Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: He will put on more bulk in the next 2 or 3 years and could yet play centre half, but I agree he has more potential in midfield. He could also play right back, as he has the pace and technique. Quite possible. Once he matures he could end up some other position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 He would never have seen the light of day in rangers former life He's been given a chance and maximised it like like any number of young potential Scots could do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 John Souttar is not a Scotland quality centre half. He just isn’t - gets caught in possession, makes bad choices. He has potential but long way to go.... don’t see why Berra I started being overlooked. I agree that mcrorie is not a centre half either... rogic tore him a new one and he would face much better at international level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On 5/20/2018 at 8:53 AM, Malcolm said: don’t see why Berra I started being overlooked. Fairly sure McLeish has said Berra's very much in the plans, but he's using the friendlies to look at what else there is should he need it. Berra will get more caps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 8:56 PM, aaid said: I think your first point is arguable, I'm not sure Bundesliga 2 is a higher level than the SPFL. I just had a quick look at the world cup squad lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_squads There are 5.5 Bundesliga 2 players going, and 6.5 SPFL players going (the half is Jamie Maclaren). Backs up my own opinion that, despite having a very professional setup, the standard of football in the Bundesliga 2 is not a higher level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 He could be the next Matthias Sammer. I mean he’s got the hair to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 17 hours ago, davew said: I just had a quick look at the world cup squad lists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_squads There are 5.5 Bundesliga 2 players going, and 6.5 SPFL players going (the half is Jamie Maclaren). Backs up my own opinion that, despite having a very professional setup, the standard of football in the Bundesliga 2 is not a higher level. He probably gambled Hamburg would have another miracle survival like they've done in previous years. They were only 3 points off in the end I think. If they sort themselves out quickly he could be a regular in a promotion winning team and so then be in good position to be a regular player in a Bundesliga team. That obviously is a higher level than SPL. If Hamburg is stuck in second division for a few years then he'll probably come back. Other issue of course is how quickly he adapts to life abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davew Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 23 hours ago, Tartan Chris said: He probably gambled Hamburg would have another miracle survival like they've done in previous years. They were only 3 points off in the end I think. If they sort themselves out quickly he could be a regular in a promotion winning team and so then be in good position to be a regular player in a Bundesliga team. That obviously is a higher level than SPL. If Hamburg is stuck in second division for a few years then he'll probably come back. Other issue of course is how quickly he adapts to life abroad. I think he might have gambled that Hamburg were going down. Hamburg are a bigger club than Rangers IMO, and the Bundesliga is a huge step up from the SPFL. He wouldn't have got a game. He surely will now, and at a standard similar to what he's used to. If things go well, in one years time, he'll have settled in to life in a different country, learned some German, established himself in the team, and be ready for a crack at the Bundesliga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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