Cove_Sheep Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Website continuing to crash: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) What is there to stop me from joining the SNP from Canada? And what's there to stop me from moving back? Nothing and nothing. The online SNP membership process clearly offers you the overseas address option (and the UK option). I am not sure you even have to be Scottish, British or whatever to even join the SNP but no doubt someone will tell you. But for sure you can be living overseas and a member. So fill your boots those living abroad and denied a vote. edit; If in doubt...try to register. Edited September 21, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 SNP . Its only £12 to join. Its the only way. I believe you can join for as little as £1 a month depending on your circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Also… what if I had owned property in Scotland? Would I have been allowed to vote in the referendum? What were the boundaries of the definition of 'resident'? How much out of a year would I be expected to live in Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 What is there to stop me from joining the SNP from Canada? And what's there to stop me from moving back? Absolutely. Friday was one of the worst days of my life minus bereavements. I've been committed to Scottish independence since I was a student (and thats a considerbale while back). I've seem a movement of hope for a better nation get battered and lied to, get swamped by an Establishment machine funded by the WM elite and their cronies and I feel joining the SNP is the very east I can do to stand with all of those who voted for change. If you believe in it just join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I don't know if a Labour For Indy party is the way to go about the Westminster elections. Would it really have enough pulling power for a traditional labour voter who is determined to try and ensure the Tories don't get back in?? In my simplistic opinion - the SNP, Greens and SSP should take a step back from the WM 2015 elections and allow a cross-party / non-party coalition to come to the fore representing Yes / Pro-Indy voices and competing against Labour up and down Scotland in a bid to get 30+ seats and be the progressive voice for Scotland at WM and really set the cat amongst the pigeons. These aren't single-issue parties, though. Supporting independence is only one part of their ideology... other than that, they're separate parties for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not everyone wants to join a political party, so while I welcome new members to the SNP the most important thing is to keep the broad Yes coalition alive. That must be broad enough to encompass Labour-for-Indy, Greens, SSP, and those of no political party. It must also keep on board Women-for-Independence and all the other pro-Yes groups which helped propel the campaign forward. Thplinth’s maths [page 3 of this thread] show that Yes is much bigger than any one party. Any splitting of the Yes campaign is destructive, so we have to be strategic about this. That means a degree of compromise – not every party or group will get everything it wants. It’s a short-term solution to present a united front that the No lot won’t be able to ignore – or resist. Happily they’ll be fighting each other at the general and Scottish elections. If we play this one right they will be the ones who split. It’s all to play for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Not everyone wants to join a political party, so while I welcome new members to the SNP the most important thing is to keep the broad Yes coalition alive. That must be broad enough to encompass Labour-for-Indy, Greens, SSP, and those of no political party. It must also keep on board Women-for-Independence and all the other pro-Yes groups which helped propel the campaign forward. Thplinth’s maths [page 3 of this thread] show that Yes is much bigger than any one party. Any splitting of the Yes campaign is destructive, so we have to be strategic about this. That means a degree of compromise – not every party or group will get everything it wants. It’s a short-term solution to present a united front that the No lot won’t be able to ignore – or resist. Happily they’ll be fighting each other at the general and Scottish elections. If we play this one right they will be the ones who split. It’s all to play for. How short-term? 15 years; perhaps longer? Between parties that, other than on this one matter, have a quite different set of policies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 No, short term is abs Max 4/5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearScot Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) These aren't single-issue parties, though. Supporting independence is only one part of their ideology... other than that, they're separate parties for a reason. I would suggest that they should form a Yes Alliance for Westminister elections but fight as separate parties in Holyrood. Not sure how it would work in practice, but I would imagine that there would be more to Unite them at Westminister level(those parties are broadly Anti-War, Anti-Trident, Lower Defence spending, Pro-Indy) Edited September 21, 2014 by BigBearScot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I would suggest that they should form a Yes Alliance for Westminister elections but fight as separate parties in Holyrood. Not sure how it would work in practice, but I would imagine that there would be more to Unite them at Westminister level(those parties are broadly Anti-War, Anti-Trident, Lower Defence spending, Pro-Indy) I see. That might work well. I'd prefer to see a pan-UK anti-UK party, though - show that the various nationalist groups can seek out support from across the UK (and also show that the ties that bind us would continue on a fraternal basis post UK breakup) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibelieve!!! Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I see. That might work well. I'd prefer to see a pan-UK anti-UK party, though - show that the various nationalist groups can seek out support from across the UK (and also show that the ties that bind us would continue on a fraternal basis post UK breakup) I'm sure that would go down a treat in Belfast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBearScot Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I see. That might work well. I'd prefer to see a pan-UK anti-UK party, though - show that the various nationalist groups can seek out support from across the UK (and also show that the ties that bind us would continue on a fraternal basis post UK breakup) I think Plaid Cmyru and SNP already have an agreement to support each other, I am also pretty sure that they work as a single Parliamentary group in Westminster. Like your idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I would suggest that they should form a Yes Alliance for Westminister elections but fight as separate parties in Holyrood. Not sure how it would work in practice, but I would imagine that there would be more to Unite them at Westminister level(those parties are broadly Anti-War, Anti-Trident, Lower Defence spending, Pro-Indy) Ha! Many genies out the bottle this week. I like the idea of a few Scottish Greens and Socialists getting into Westminster that way, off the back of displacing some Labour MP... Imagine that, a Socialist in the House of Commons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I think Plaid Cmyru and SNP already have an agreement to support each other, I am also pretty sure that they work as a single Parliamentary group in Westminster. Like your idea though. It's very early days but I'd love to see Yorkshire First and North East Party representation there too. They'd benefit massively from SNP / PC support and expertise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 ... Imagine that, a Socialist in the House of Commons! I'm sure they would never allow that to happen. There must be rules against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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