norsefox Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, fringo said: Well if you you rule out good teams and then middling teams that's what your left with. And if we'd beaten Germany (like Ireland and Poland did) we would have qualified or got into a play off at least. I'm actually disagreeing with the other guys who said it's pointless playing these games i.e. Italy & France. If we avoid playing them we'll never improve. Nonsense. If you were AFC Wimbledon, would you improve by playing Chelsea every week? What have we learned from this week? Anything we didn't already learn from beaten by Germany twice and England twice? We're playing England twice in qualifiers (we already know they're distinctly better than us AND we know how they play). so why aren't we playing teams like Slovakia, Slovenia, and Lithuania? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanDave Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Have we had a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 ONE ANDY MURRAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, thewelk said: The French already saw us as a joke of a nation. I already get it in the neck every year for the 6 nations. The no vote was hilarious for them. Now the football team too with this embarassing level of football. And to top it off they're playing in that comedy pink strip. The French are right, we suck as a nation and suck at football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, norsefox said: Nonsense. If you were AFC Wimbledon, would you improve by playing Chelsea every week? What have we learned from this week? Anything we didn't already learn from beaten by Germany twice and England twice? We're playing England twice in qualifiers (we already know they're distinctly better than us AND we know how they play). so why aren't we playing teams like Slovakia, Slovenia, and Lithuania? $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, norsefox said: Nonsense. If you were AFC Wimbledon, would you improve by playing Chelsea every week? What have we learned from this week? Anything we didn't already learn from beaten by Germany twice and England twice? We're playing England twice in qualifiers (we already know they're distinctly better than us AND we know how they play). so why aren't we playing teams like Slovakia, Slovenia, and Lithuania? You learn by playing teams of a similar level.. Not by chasing shadows and trying to keep possession across your back 4 all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 minute ago, vanderark14 said: The French are right, we suck as a nation and suck at football. Snooker, darts, curling, shinty, come on we'd have a chance at all of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, Marky said: So Fringo you think this game tonight will improve us?? In time yes. But we have years of pain to go through and have to accept a rebuilding process over 5-10 years minimum (along with many structural changes across the country). Otherwise we'll be having similar conversations across the country in 10-20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Hertsscot said: Snooker, darts, curling, shinty, come on we'd have a chance at all of them! We'd still find a way to screw it up. Now if we were to take anyone on at self loathing we'd be gold medal winners every time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, fringo said: But we have years of pain to go through and have to accept a rebuilding process over 5-10 years minimum (along with many structural changes across the country). Otherwise we'll be having similar conversations across the country in 10-20 years. We've been saying this since 1986? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, thewelk said: At least! Seriously though, why are we able to develop decent young Scottish rugby players when barely anyone plays the sport in Scotland, whereas Darren Fletcher is the only quality footballer to have emerged  in the last 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle do nicely Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 To defend picking matches against big teams, a flukey win can get loads of ranking points, and it makes joining the SSC more popular, but Berti showed though that getting hammered by these teams just destroys the confidence, you'd think there were beatable teams above us in the rankings that we could have picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle do nicely Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Just now, COLT NY said: Seriously though, why are we able to develop decent young Scottish rugby players when barely anyone plays the sport in Scotland, whereas Darren Fletcher is the only quality footballer to have emerged  in the last 20 years? Cos theres only a dozen ex colonies that play rugby so be the 5th worst makes you the 6th best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Steven Kingsley. On loan at Crewe. Fuqk off Strachan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 minute ago, thistle do nicely said: Cos theres only a dozen ex colonies that play rugby so be the 5th worst makes you the 6th best Aye, but we're still competitive against countries that have up to 50x more players like England and France, and against powerhouses like Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Just now, COLT NY said: Aye, but we're still competitive against countries that have up to 50x more players like England and France, and against powerhouses like Australia. Correct yet in football, we are miles behind the likes of Iceland and Northern Ireland. on a side note it's not just out lack of talent, it's also our players lack of interest in the national team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, exile said: We've been saying this since 1986? Probably since around 2000-2001 IMO when we could see the end of the last generation of players just capable of qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Rossy said: Steven Kingsley. On loan at Crewe. Fuqk off Strachan. Kingsley may have been at Crewe on loan but he finished the season looking impressive at Swansea so that's a bit misleading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Just now, Hertsscot said: Kingsley may have been at Crewe on loan but he finished the season looking impressive at Swansea so that's a bit misleading That's all you need to so to get a Scotland cap these days ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle do nicely Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Is there not an element of the better teams are bigger and stronger, so as long as we can produce big strong boys we can compete to an extent?  we only have 1 or 2 players that have the skill to pick up the ball and do something creative. Football's non contact and skill based compared with rugby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 kingsley done alright when he came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 The French tv pundits are taking a lot of positives out of that match. It was the perfect preparation match for the euros. Lots of confidence etc. I think they've seriously underestimated how sh#te we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 1 minute ago, Hertsscot said: Kingsley may have been at Crewe on loan but he finished the season looking impressive at Swansea so that's a bit misleading Barely heard of him, but he did okay. Just about our only player willing to take on a man before passing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 I missed most of the second half, but McKay had a good last 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLT NY Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, thewelk said: The French tv pundits are taking a lot of positives out of that match. It was the perfect preparation match for the euros. Lots of confidence etc. I think they've seriously underestimated how sh#te we are. We'd beat some of the teams in their group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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