wwta2007.com Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Guid Luck tae Catalunya. Sunday 27th September. http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/23/more-important-than-football-catalonia-s-elections-explained/ Nae Referendums for the Catalans. Just an independence plebiscite based on their "regional" elections. Hope they vote for self-determination. 7 May 2016 anyone ? SNP/Green/RISE will take minimum 55% of the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 They'll have the bawz to do it, unlike this place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 FC Barcelona, currently in second place on goal difference in La Liga, could end up in the same position as Scotland’s Celtic FC. Forced out of La Liga and into a new Catalonia version, Barca could end up playing in a league where they won every match without being challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 The fc barca situation if it came about would probably trigger a European super league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Nice to see they're getting kicked out the EU too. Good consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Any updates on how things are looking and when results will be known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Scotland, Catalonia, Basque Republic, Wales, Flanders, Wallonia, Corsica, Sardinia ............. Why shouldn't the 21st Century see the rise of new/re-born nations in Europe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Spain struggling with economic problems would only suffer more if Catalonia separated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 But this is not about Spain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Spain struggling with economic problems would only suffer more if Catalonia separated. So Better Together for Spain then... Much like the situation here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 So Better Together for Spain then... Much like the situation here. Funny that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwta2007.com Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Big turnout reported n Euronews at 1630hrs. "Separatist" parties to win. Guid on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Anyone know when the polls shut and results start being announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Spain struggling with economic problems would only suffer more if Catalonia separated. Interesting viewpoint on the situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwta2007.com Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/sep/27/catalonia-goes-to-the-polls-live Polls closed at 1800hrs GMT. Exit polls says the Independistas have won. Al Jazeera LIVE calling the elections Independence related. No mention of "separation". European Free Alliance people being interviewed including Saltire on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stapes Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Anyone know when the polls shut and results start being announced? Polls now closed. Exit poll of 30,000 people suggesting a narrow vote win for pro-independence parties, and a significant win in seats numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wanderer Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 How official is this vote today? Is it official regional votes within Spain that the Catalonians will (hopefully) get a better deal out of and maybe a official vote one day? Or is it another unofficial vote that they hope will be another landslide that will either get Spain or the UN to take note of (which neither of did at the last one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Vaughn Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 This will be decided in the courts. I suspect the same would happen here if we had too quick a second referendum to decide which referendum is (more) legitimate. Just remember the Aberdeen bypass was held up be one twat and his failed legal case for about four years. The more important FC Barcelona issue would be the beginning of merged-national leagues. The Spanish league sans-Barca would be greatly diminished and could not be allowed to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 How official is this vote today? Is it official regional votes within Spain that the Catalonians will (hopefully) get a better deal out of and maybe a official vote one day? Or is it another unofficial vote that they hope will be another landslide that will either get Spain or the UN to take note of (which neither of did at the last one). It is the elections for the Catalan devolved parliament. Similar to Scottish parliament elections. So it's official in that sense. Not official in terms of an independence referendum. Some independence supporting parties joined together to make it a de facto referendum and say that if they win a majority they will declare independence unilaterally in 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Barca have said that they'll play in France if it happens. Amazing how many problems can be solved with Qatari Money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Spain obviously won't accept independence for Catalonia and won't recognise it. They won't let them hold an official referendum no matter who wins this election. So it's going to be very messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 It is the elections for the Catalan devolved parliament. Similar to Scottish parliament elections. So it's official in that sense. Not official in terms of an independence referendum. Some independence supporting parties joined together to make it a de facto referendum and say that if they win a majority they will declare independence unilaterally in 18 months. Cheers, so it's effectively the "pro-independence" parties piggy backing on a regional vote as such. That was what I was thinking as its been pretty hard to get a clear picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The main separatist alliance are forecasted to get 63-66 seats. They will be the biggest group but its not enough will not give an outright majority. Also opinion polls make are pretty even on seceding from Spain although the vast majority want a referendum to give them the choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDange Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 The lack of coverage in our media on this is a disgrace. Bad when we need an Arabian outlet to keep us up to date. And are folk seriously trying to bring football teams into this decision? Catalan teams could easily continue as is. Seems to work fine in the NHL for Canada and The US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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