Nobby Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Don't forget the disrespect he showed by not singing God Save the Queen! Will his evil ever end! Whether you like it or not the great unwashed generally expect their political leaders to play the game. I admire the bloke already as he seems a deeply principled man but if he turns up to an event like that and doesnt play nicely they will go after him. I would add that i'd never vote for him in a million years but I do still admire him, he's too left wing, even for my working class roots ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Whether you like it or not the great unwashed generally expect their political leaders to play the game. I admire the bloke already as he seems a deeply principled man but if he turns up to an event like that and doesnt play nicely they will go after him. I would add that i'd never vote for him in a million years but I do still admire him, he's too left wing, even for my working class roots ;-) They hate politicians but you're right they still want them to play the game and appear "statesman like" Given the options, wouldn't too left be better than the alternatives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's style over substance , a fool's argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's style over substance , a fool's argument. I would agree but its the great unwashed and the media he's playing to and its the "fools" he has to win over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 They hate politicians but you're right they still want them to play the game and appear "statesman like" Given the options, wouldn't too left be better than the alternatives? Not in my opinion ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I suspect that in truth Corbyn is somewhat closer to a hypothetical centre point of a non-existent political spectrum than Cameron is. It's good to see that myth & the Ladybird Guide to Political Thought can still fuel a good old-fashioned character assassination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I suspect that in truth Corbyn is somewhat closer to a hypothetical centre point of a non-existent political spectrum than Cameron is. It's good to see that myth & the Ladybird Guide to Political Thought can still fuel a good old-fashioned character assassination. Which makes you wonder why he didnt turn up in a matching suit with his tie done up and sung the song, because the people who read the book you mention wouldve had feck all to complain about, and maybe, just maybe he might've started to win a few doubters over ! because as previous when you are in the soptlight, perception matters ! He should give your Ms Sturgeon a call about how to up his game because there's a lady that certainly has ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Disgusting statement from Corbyn. Traitorous scum! “My mum served as an air raid warden and my dad in the Home Guard. Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism. The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe a enormous debt of gratitude. The loss of life – both civilian and military – should be commemorated so that we both honour their lives and do all that we can to ensure future generations are spared the horrors of war.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Which makes you wonder why he didnt turn up in a matching suit with his tie done up and sung the song, because the people who read the book you mention wouldve had feck all to complain about, and maybe, just maybe he might've started to win a few doubters over ! because as previous when you are in the soptlight, perception matters ! He should give your Ms Sturgeon a call about how to up his game because there's a lady that certainly has ! I find it amusing the great difficulty you have processing someone acting on principle. Why doesn't he just pretend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Disgusting statement from Corbyn. Traitorous scum! “My mum served as an air raid warden and my dad in the Home Guard. Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism. The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe a enormous debt of gratitude. The loss of life – both civilian and military – should be commemorated so that we both honour their lives and do all that we can to ensure future generations are spared the horrors of war.” Disgusting statement from Corbyn. Traitorous scum! “My mum served as an air raid warden and my dad in the Home Guard. Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism. The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe a enormous debt of gratitude. The loss of life – both civilian and military – should be commemorated so that we both honour their lives and do all that we can to ensure future generations are spared the horrors of war.” Do you think Corbyn would gone to war against Hitler? He holds really strong views on avoiding conflict . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Do you think Corbyn would gone to war against Hitler? He holds really strong views on avoiding conflict . I think he would have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Do you think Corbyn would gone to war against Hitler? He holds really strong views on avoiding conflict . Convoluted Godwin metrics here. Would he have gone to war with Hitler? FFS Hitler gave no one a choice really didn't he. When he attacked countries with protection treaties. Always interesting when you jump 80 years into the past for a nice counterfactual argument involving the Nazi's. surely you can make whatever point you're trying to without invoking Hitler, world war II and the rise of the Nazi's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Do you think Corbyn would gone to war against Hitler? He holds really strong views on avoiding conflict . "CORBYN WOULD'VE LAY DOWN TO THE NAZIS" I fully expect to see that as a Daily Mail headline soon. Quality stuff, Eddard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Convoluted Godwin metrics here. Would he have gone to war with Hitler? FFS Hitler gave no one a choice really didn't he. When he attacked countries with protection treaties. Always interesting when you jump 80 years into the past for a nice counterfactual argument involving the Nazi's. surely you can make whatever point you're trying to without invoking Hitler, world war II and the rise of the Nazi's In the context we are talking about the Battle of Britain its a fair point to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 "CORBYN WOULD'VE LAY DOWN TO THE NAZIS" I fully expect to see that as a Daily Mail headline soon. Quality stuff, Eddard hold on tiger,you are getting ahead of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) In the context we are talking about the Battle of Britain its a fair point to make. I don't know what the point was. all you did was ask a question about Hitler, what was your actual point? Edited September 15, 2015 by phart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Which makes you wonder why he didnt turn up in a matching suit with his tie done up and sung the song, because the people who read the book you mention wouldve had feck all to complain about, and maybe, just maybe he might've started to win a few doubters over ! because as previous when you are in the soptlight, perception matters ! He should give your Ms Sturgeon a call about how to up his game because there's a lady that certainly has ! Just a small hint here...check my username & then Google maps Do you think Corbyn would gone to war against Hitler? He holds really strong views on avoiding conflict . Others have made the point but you can only judge any human on how they respond to the situations they face. It's probably a nice dinner party game (I never get asked to any so I'm guessing here) to say would (insert politician) have (insert political act) if they had been leader at that time, but it's unprovable & essentially pointless. How about "would David Cameron have introduced a National Health Service in the early 1950s" for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Disgusting statement from Corbyn. Traitorous scum! “My mum served as an air raid warden and my dad in the Home Guard. Like that whole generation, they showed tremendous courage and determination to defeat fascism. The heroism of the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain is something to which we all owe a enormous debt of gratitude. The loss of life – both civilian and military – should be commemorated so that we both honour their lives and do all that we can to ensure future generations are spared the horrors of war.” That's all very well, but his top button was undone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I don't know what the point was. all you did was ask a question about Hitler, what was your actual point? I actually admire Corbyn's principled stance. I was wondering if he was a pacifist that is all. He needs to be careful with how he words his jibes at the Tories though. Calling then Poverty Deniers is kind of crass don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I actually admire Corbyn's principled stance. I was wondering if he was a pacifist that is all. He needs to be careful with how he words his jibes at the Tories though. Calling then Poverty Deniers is kind of crass don't you think? Yeah using "deniers" is far too emotive a word. Though far down my list of priorities , like the massive arms fair in London soon. Or extra-judicial killing of citizens , or the ongoing child abuse problem etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 I actually admire Corbyn's principled stance. I was wondering if he was a pacifist that is all. He needs to be careful with how he words his jibes at the Tories though. Calling then Poverty Deniers is kind of crass don't you think? I think it's acceptable as it's an accurate statement so I wouldn't put it in the crass or Slur category. First poll since he took over has a healthy gain for Labour #CorbynEffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 "I welcome decent people in society trying to help others who may, for various reasons, have fallen into difficulty" - Iain Duncan-Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Whether you like it or not the great unwashed generally expect their political leaders to play the game. ;-) That is exactly what people don't want and why Corbyn won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 That is exactly what people don't want and why Corbyn won. Yeah but he can't win a general election . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Yeah but he can't win a general election . . . Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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