euan2020 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Because he's a completely unproven manager? Rangers are taking a big risk IMO. Although if they've got it correct, the upside is pretty big. +1 - for a 52 year old he has only 8 years coaching experience worked 20 years in Trading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce778 Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Because he's a completely unproven manager? Rangers are taking a big risk IMO. Although if they've got it correct, the upside is pretty big.He's not completely unproven though, is he?He has a limited track record, which, to date, is pretty good. Any managerial appointment is a risk. There are countless examples of managers doing well at some clubs and then failing at others. The only extremely low risk managerial appointment is probably Walter smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Because he's a completely unproven manager? Rangers are taking a big risk IMO. Although if they've got it correct, the upside is pretty big. It's definitely a risk. Completely unproven isn't quite correct though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Let's be honest, I think it'll be hard for Warburton to fail. It's not as if he's in the Premiership with Celtic, and the fans are demanding the treble and at the very least a Champions League semi-final. He's got Rangers at a rock-bottom time, in a (Hibs aside) piss-easy league. All he has to do is get a team together that can beat Alloa and Raith Rovers.....aye, it's still a pressure, but it's hardly comparable with the pressure he'd be under if Rangers were in the Premiership. It's the ideal time to be the new Rangers manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Audrey Hepburn's a good laugh tae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 He's not completely unproven though, is he? He has a limited track record, which, to date, is pretty good. Any managerial appointment is a risk. There are countless examples of managers doing well at some clubs and then failing at others. The only extremely low risk managerial appointment is probably Walter smith. Was lucky enough to spend some time with him speaking about nothing but fitba and drinking lots of Rioja - top bloke in every respect (well, apart fae one). Well and truly retired now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Rangers board win EGM vote regarding the immediate pay back of Ashley's £5M. Maybe not as clear cut as they would have thought though as apparently "just over 50%" voted against Ashley's resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Same old Alloa,always cheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Me and the missus have voted to not pay our mortgage .Press conference at 2pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Me and the missus have voted to not pay our mortgage .Press conference at 2pm. I see what you're getting at but as the loan isn't actually due to be repaid then there's no reason it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Businessman with dodgy past becomes chairman of Rangers and refuses to pay debt. Not heard that one before Don't worry Bears I'm sure everything will be hunky dory.Just keep thinking war chest and back in the Champions League by 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Businessman with dodgy past becomes chairman of Rangers and refuses to pay debt. Not heard that one before Don't worry Bears I'm sure everything will be hunky dory.Just keep thinking war chest and back in the Champions League by 2018. Aye, very good. It'll be 2017. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Hehe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I see what you're getting at but as the loan isn't actually due to be repaid then there's no reason it should be. That's the same point my missus made about our mortgage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 I see what you're getting at but as the loan isn't actually due to be repaid then there's no reason it should be. When's it actually due? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 When's it actually due? Is it not something like 2018? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 When's it actually due? Not til Charles Green hears the Champions League music playing at Ibrox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Is it not something like 2018? So des that mean he's got 75% or whatever it is of The Rangers retail income until then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 So des that mean he's got 75% or whatever it is of The Rangers retail income until then? And if they pay him back, they reduce that to 49%? A fair chunk - especially considering King reckons rangers could sell twenty gazillion shirts a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRBear Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share Posted June 16, 2015 Danny Wilson on the verge of being the first signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 And if they pay him back, they reduce that to 49%? A fair chunk - especially considering King reckons rangers could sell twenty gazillion shirts a year While Sports Direct get a big cut of the profits the fans won't buy the shirts in any real numbers. They don't want Ashley getting anything as he's tried to screw the club for as much as he can get.It's kind of like getting revenge on him and all the other thieving bastards that have been robbing the club over the last few years It doesn't really make sense but that's the way it seems to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 While Sports Direct get a big cut of the profits the fans won't buy the shirts in any real numbers. They don't want Ashley getting anything as he's tried to screw the club for as much as he can get. It's kind of like getting revenge on him and all the other thieving bastards that have been robbing the club over the last few years It doesn't really make sense but that's the way it seems to me. It's about trying to renegotiate the deal with SD entirely, not revenge although I'm quite sure a big percentage of the punters are thinking like that. Hence the reason the shareholders also voted in favour of a board resolution to renegotiate existing retail arrangements. Reducing it to 49% would help in the short term of course but to me won't help get shot of him for good. The only way to truly send a message is to stop buying merchandise. I mean what's the point in him having this deal if no one is buying and he is also £5m out of pocket? It put's the board in a much stronger position when it comes to the negotiations. The next share issue will be very interesting. Will the shareholders voting alongside Ashley take up their option or can their involvement in the club be diluted further? It would be much much better if this was made public, but not a chance in hell Ashley and his cronies will allow that. The really baffling thing is the 22% of shareholders that didn't thin k this was important enough to even vote on. We honesty sometimes deserve all we get when you read stuff like that. Quite happy to bitch and moan but do all about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 It's about trying to renegotiate the deal with SD entirely, not revenge although I'm quite sure a big percentage of the punters are thinking like that. Hence the reason the shareholders also voted in favour of a board resolution to renegotiate existing retail arrangements. Reducing it to 49% would help in the short term of course but to me won't help get shot of him for good. The only way to truly send a message is to stop buying merchandise. I mean what's the point in him having this deal if no one is buying and he is also £5m out of pocket? It put's the board in a much stronger position when it comes to the negotiations. The next share issue will be very interesting. Will the shareholders voting alongside Ashley take up their option or can their involvement in the club be diluted further? It would be much much better if this was made public, but not a chance in hell Ashley and his cronies will allow that. The really baffling thing is the 22% of shareholders that didn't thin k this was important enough to even vote on. We honesty sometimes deserve all we get when you read stuff like that. Quite happy to bitch and moan but do all about it Not sure if there is a way for fans to buy Retro shirts with the money going to RFC, maybe old branding or something of Ready Badge which Cashley has no access to - sure there is still a way for the fans to buy a top and still have money go towards the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus_Young Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Not sure if there is a way for fans to buy Retro shirts with the money going to RFC, maybe old branding or something of Ready Badge which Cashley has no access to - sure there is still a way for the fans to buy a top and still have money go towards the club Some fans already thought of that mate http://www.thelionbrand.co.uk/ The new white one they have released is a cracker. Our problem is still the amount of ignorance that is apparent in our support. People will buy stuff blindly without even realising what's going on. Edited June 16, 2015 by Angus_Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanJon Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 How much is the orange top ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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