Ally Bongo Posted September 29, 2023 Author Share Posted September 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Vote against them in what exactly? Only thing i can think of is a vote of No Confidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Only thing i can think of is a vote of No Confidence 🙄 that sounds more like a game of Chinese whispers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 57 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: 🙄 that sounds more like a game of Chinese whispers. It sounds like shite. Remember Hampden_Loon has a long track record of “hearing things” that never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Whatever happens this autumn is going to be a defining moment for the SNP and of significance to the wider Yes movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 hours ago, TDYER63 said: Vote against them in what exactly? Not exactly sure, whether it be coalition or what, he just said that moves were afoot and 14 snp msp’s were willing to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 5 hours ago, aaid said: It sounds like shite. Remember Hampden_Loon has a long track record of “hearing things” that never happen. Like the GRR going down like a house on fire? Like the current slide into a total train wreck? How many times have I warned that things will unravel like it is at the moment? And yet you still don’t see it,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 hours ago, TDYER63 said: 🙄 that sounds more like a game of Chinese whispers. Possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 34 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Like the GRR going down like a house on fire? Like the current slide into a total train wreck? How many times have I warned that things will unravel like it is at the moment? And yet you still don’t see it,,, Dozens of times - how many times has it happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, aaid said: Dozens of times - how many times has it happened? I forgot your heads buried in the sand and are obvious to what’s going on in the party. I see we got thumped again today, am sure you will have an excuse and try to say it’s not that bad 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 hours ago, aaid said: Dozens of times - how many times has it happened? GRR is a disaster, even you must admit that. Split a perty for nothing more than Sturgeon being led down a rabbit hole by the greens. Literally took a party on a crest of q wave to one that's shedding members at an alarming rate and sees independence looking like a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12% drop in vote share in the latest council election... i firmly believe with quick action the party can be saved, after the Rutherglen byelection will be the time to act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 15 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Not exactly sure, whether it be coalition or what, he just said that moves were afoot and 14 snp msp’s were willing to move Ok, lets assume that is the case. Where would they move to ? Are you talking coalition as like The Independent Group in England a few years ago ? That didn’t end too well if I recall. I think something needs done as this current situation isn’t sustainable, but I don’t think its too clever to be drip feeding unknown and unsubstantiated information either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: 12% drop in vote share in the latest council election... i firmly believe with quick action the party can be saved, after the Rutherglen byelection will be the time to act What should they do after the by-election ? Assuming they lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: Ok, lets assume that is the case. Where would they move to ? Are you talking coalition as like The Independent Group in England a few years ago ? That didn’t end too well if I recall. I think something needs done as this current situation isn’t sustainable, but I don’t think its too clever to be drip feeding unknown and unsubstantiated information either. I don’t think he was speaking of moving out of the party , I took it more as taking action,, he never gave anymore away. It could be utter bollox, but I would be very surprised if we get thumped in rutherglen and they don’t posture themselves in some way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 54 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: What should they do after the by-election ? Assuming they lose it. Clear the board, go back to what got us from a fringe party to the dominant one, do what’s best for Scotland and winning independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 Humza says that electing Katy Louden "would force the Westminster establishment to listen to Scotland" Get these clowns to fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ally Bongo said: Humza says that electing Katy Louden "would force the Westminster establishment to listen to Scotland" Get these clowns to fuck It wouldn't make any difference to the Tories but it would wipe any smile if Labour's face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 The MSM Monitor account (which was outed as an SNP staffer account) has named Joanna Cherry, Alex Neil, Kate Forbes, Ash Regan, Michelle Thomson, Fergus Ewing and Angus McNeil as "fringe malcontents" who can't adjust to the fact that a younger generation has replaced them and taken the party more socially left and have joined up with "Yesterday's men" and are bitter. That socially left must mean Women having cocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: The MSM Monitor account (which was outed as an SNP staffer account) has named Joanna Cherry, Alex Neil, Kate Forbes, Ash Regan, Michelle Thomson, Fergus Ewing and Angus McNeil as "fringe malcontents" who can't adjust to the fact that a younger generation has replaced them and taken the party more socially left and have joined up with "Yesterday's men" and are bitter. That socially left must mean Women having cocks But they're not 'fringe' malcontents. I haven't got any figures at hand but iirc over 50% of the members voted for Kate and Ash in the recent elections for party leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Clear the board, go back to what got us from a fringe party to the dominant one, do what’s best for Scotland and winning independence. Nothing happens on the Indy front until SNP are destroyed. I saw that as someone who voted for them since 74. Since she took over its one disaster after another. Hope she sees jail fir Salmond stitch up. Regardless we will never get anywhere with this crowd of arseholes. I could go on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaundy Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 The snp has been hijacked led by a private school cunt bred to steal and be dishonest. It’s what dey do . the snp was meant to be a means to an end followed by a first free election. The uk infection and inherent dishonesty led to the idea that the snp would be the continuity government of a self vote in Scotland which is obviously ludicrous, though the uk logic has very little to do with reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, mariokempes said: Nothing happens on the Indy front until SNP are destroyed. I saw that as someone who voted for them since 74. Since she took over its one disaster after another. Hope she sees jail fir Salmond stitch up. Regardless we will never get anywhere with this crowd of arseholes. I could go on.. I disagree and believe we have a chance to recapture the soul of the party but it needs to be quickly, and I agree, anyone with any doubt regarding what happened to salmond needs to give themselves a shake,, this goes deeper than incompetence,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Hertsscot said: It wouldn't make any difference to the Tories but it would wipe any smile if Labour's face. I am at a point where I see this by election a make or break for the snp, if the do well at it then the snp is finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hertsscot said: But they're not 'fringe' malcontents. I haven't got any figures at hand but iirc over 50% of the members voted for Kate and Ash in the recent elections for party leader. Please don’t try and recast the election as something that it wasn’t. There wasn’t a “Kate and Ash” option on the ballot paper. Edited September 30, 2023 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, aaid said: Please don’t try and recast the election as something that it wasn’t. There wasn’t a “Kate and Ash” option on the ballot paper. Sorry, I'm not sure I get your point. All I'm saying is that it's misleading to portray them as fringe players when so recently they were standing to be party leader and between them got over 50% of the first choice votes. Half those who voted, voted for them, surely that's more than a 'fringe'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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