hannibal smith Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I was staying at the Travelodge at Tamworth services on the M42 a few weeks ago, i arrived at 23:00 and left at 09:00 the following morning and was advised at reception it was free parking and gave her my numberplate. I have now been given a parking fine of £100 for overstaying the 2 hour free parking period by a company called CP Plus. Do i just ignore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, hannibal smith said: I was staying at the Travelodge at Tamworth services on the M42 a few weeks ago, i arrived at 23:00 and left at 09:00 the following morning and was advised at reception it was free parking and gave her my numberplate. I have now been given a parking fine of £100 for overstaying the 2 hour free parking period by a company called CP Plus. Do i just ignore? No. Phone/Write to Travelodge and the parking company, explain the situation. You can be made to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Was it well sign posted that only "so-and-so" hours of free parking was allowed? On the surface you should just ignore this, as companies like CP Plus are in no position hand out fines, and will not be worth their time or money to take further action, but I have read that one or two of these companies have found loop holes where the final can be be "legal"..... maybe best to phone the hotel and explain what has happened. Edited July 10, 2017 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 We're you parked in the Travelodge parking area or just in the general service station parking area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I thought these fines are enforceable in England, but in Scotland are not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 26 minutes ago, wanderer said: Was it well sign posted that only "so-and-so" hours of free parking was allowed? On the surface you should just ignore this, as companies like CP Plus are in no position hand out fines, and will not be worth their time or money to take further action, but I have read that one or two of these companies have found loop holes where the final can be be "legal"..... maybe best to phone the hotel and explain what has happened. Shocking advice. As long as signposting was adequate and clear, by parking you are accepting the T's and C's of doing so and this forms a contract. The supreme court have ruled on this after a guy tried to challenge the fine, arguing that it was a "penalty" and therefore unenforceable. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/supreme-court-dismisses-85-parking-ticket-challenge/5051987.article 9 minutes ago, euan2020 said: I thought these fines are enforceable in England, but in Scotland are not Wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39478203 @hannibal smith Do not just ignore these. I'd think the company would be reasonable about it and let you off but if you ignore, they'll pursue and you'll have to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 29 minutes ago, wanderer said: Was it well sign posted that only "so-and-so" hours of free parking was allowed? On the surface you should just ignore this, as companies like CP Plus are in no position hand out fines, and will not be worth their time or money to take further action, but I have read that one or two of these companies have found loop holes where the final can be be "legal"..... maybe best to phone the hotel and explain what has happened. I didn't really notice any signs, it was late at night and i had been on the road for 6 hours with two young impatient kids. I was photographed going in and out of the service station, i had parked in the Travelodge car park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 I'd get in touch with the Travelodge then as the website does state there is free (limited) parking though you have to register. https://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/182/Tamworth-M42-hotel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 i'd probably just wait and see what happens. if you get another letter pay it. I still have an outstanding fine from Italy from 2016. Never paid it. About the only positive that i can think of from the Brexit vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Thanks for the advice. I have appealed it through the CP Plus website where one of the options for the appeal was 'I was staying in a hotel' and have attached my hotel confirmation so hopefully that should suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, wanderer said: Was it well sign posted that only "so-and-so" hours of free parking was allowed? On the surface you should just ignore this, as companies like CP Plus are in no position hand out fines, and will not be worth their time or money to take further action, but I have read that one or two of these companies have found loop holes where the final can be be "legal"..... maybe best to phone the hotel and explain what has happened. Pretty much 100% wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Parklife said: Shocking advice. As long as signposting was adequate and clear, by parking you are accepting the T's and C's of doing so and this forms a contract. The supreme court have ruled on this after a guy tried to challenge the fine, arguing that it was a "penalty" and therefore unenforceable. https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/supreme-court-dismisses-85-parking-ticket-challenge/5051987.article Wrong. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-39478203 @hannibal smith Do not just ignore these. I'd think the company would be reasonable about it and let you off but if you ignore, they'll pursue and you'll have to pay. I guess the agreement would be with the driver - and you "don't know" who the driver was - or you self incriminate, and should ask for photographs to identify who driver was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, hannibal smith said: I was staying at the Travelodge at Tamworth services on the M42 a few weeks ago, i arrived at 23:00 and left at 09:00 the following morning and was advised at reception it was free parking and gave her my numberplate. I have now been given a parking fine of £100 for overstaying the 2 hour free parking period by a company called CP Plus. Do i just ignore? I just couldn't help but read this using the voice of Partridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 You've done the right thing. Contact the hotel and ask them to sort it. They will get these all the time. Can probably send an email and get it cancelled. If you don't pay, the parking company pass it to a debt recovery company, and then they can't help you. Unfortunately ours got sent to the wrong address*, so the first we heard was from the debt recovery company, so the cinema we were visiting can't help. So just ignoring it, and hoping they don't bother taking it further. *despite telling us we only had to tell them once we had moved, the DVLA had our car registered at old address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 The law has definitely shifted on this in the last year or two, but the landowners, or main land occupants generally still have the authority to cancel them. I'd start by going down the 'good customer' route & see what they say. There's a dedicated civil ticket forum where there a good number of specialists in this to advise you. 100% though, don't ignore it & don't tell them who was driving at this stage (including not mentioning it on the forum). http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Mox said: I just couldn't help but read this using the voice of Partridge. What Hannibal isn't telling us is that he ended up staying at the Travelodge for 183 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Huddersfield said: The law has definitely shifted on this in the last year or two, but the landowners, or main land occupants generally still have the authority to cancel them. I'd start by going down the 'good customer' route & see what they say. There's a dedicated civil ticket forum where there a good number of specialists in this to advise you. 100% though, don't ignore it & don't tell them who was driving at this stage (including not mentioning it on the forum). http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=60 This is the best advice in the thread. Do as he says. You'll likely end up appealing via POPLA once the company routinely reject your appeal, but should be successful in the end. And ALWAYS refer to "the driver" not "me" or "I" etc. Even on the forum. The pepipoo forum website it excellent - follow their advice to the letter. Not do long ago you could simply ignore these invoices (that is all these "fines" are, nothing more than a request for payment) but this has started changing in recent times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 thanks again for all the advice Just had an email back acknowledging my hotel booking, cancelling the parking fine and apologising for any inconvenience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, hannibal smith said: thanks again for all the advice Just had an email back acknowledging my hotel booking, cancelling the parking fine and apologising for any inconvenience Good result - well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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