Rude Gullit Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, TartanTon said: Not sure what you mean? What was that? Half past two, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTon Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, Rude Gullit said: What was that? Half past two, maybe. I thought more quarter to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, TartanTon said: Not sure what you mean? You're getting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTon Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, adamntg said: You're getting there. vague Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 19 hours ago, Bino's said: our rivals nowadays are the likes of lithuania and we need to do everything we possibly can to get better than them  England will always be a rival to scotland regardless of differing levels of quality. Begging guys like caulker and gallagher to represent my country is not a level i want us to stoop to. Of course plenty people like yourself are happy to pursue this avenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Paulo2576 said: England will always be a rival to scotland regardless of differing levels of quality. Begging guys like caulker and gallagher to represent my country is not a level i want us to stoop to. Of course plenty people like yourself are happy to pursue this avenue. including the last 7 managers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Bino's said: including the last 7 managers I know. I reluctantly accept that non-scots will be selected. I hate it, but its the way it is unfortunately. i will never rejoice in it though and there is always a feeling of dread when we unearth anither 'legible'. Surely though we should draw the line at guys who have refused us/elected to play for another country in the past. Actually i woukd love it if you got your wish and we asked them and they told us where to go. Complete humiliation thus outlining how shite the rule is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 hours ago, TartanTon said: vague Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Steven pressley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinsoldier Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Define "non Scots" though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Paulo2576 said: I know. I reluctantly accept that non-scots will be selected. I hate it, but its the way it is unfortunately. i will never rejoice in it though and there is always a feeling of dread when we unearth anither 'legible'. Surely though we should draw the line at guys who have refused us/elected to play for another country in the past. Actually i woukd love it if you got your wish and we asked them and they told us where to go. Complete humiliation thus outlining how shite the rule is. I know I just want to get the team better anyway way possible it's got so bad  btw, all of said players whether capped or not were English first, we just persuaded them to come to us when they realised weren't going to play for England  every one is the same from 1990 onward, except maybe Burke  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Paulo2576 said: I know. I reluctantly accept that non-scots will be selected. I hate it, but its the way it is unfortunately. i will never rejoice in it though and there is always a feeling of dread when we unearth anither 'legible'. Surely though we should draw the line at guys who have refused us/elected to play for another country in the past. Actually i woukd love it if you got your wish and we asked them and they told us where to go. Complete humiliation thus outlining how shite the rule is. btw, would you take karamoko dembele back in about 10 years time if he turns into a player and changes his mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Bino's said: I know I just want to get the team better anyway way possible it's got so bad  btw, all of said players whether capped or not were English first, we just persuaded them to come to us when they realised weren't going to play for England  every one is the same from 1990 onward, except maybe Burke  I would never stoop so far but it's crept in and will no doubt continue like rugby (sadly) and we'll just have to keep accepting it (we can't change it). The saddest thing is it's not actually made us better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 8 hours ago, fringo said: I would never stoop so far but it's crept in and will no doubt continue like rugby (sadly) and we'll just have to keep accepting it (we can't change it). The saddest thing is it's not actually made us better. it might have stopped us from being even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 14 hours ago, tinsoldier said: Define "non Scots" though. It's well debated and people have different thoughts on the matter, but as a starter for ten I'd suggest people who've played for another country are surely non Scots by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Bino's said: btw, would you take karamoko dembele back in about 10 years time if he turns into a player and changes his mind Whether he turns out to be a player or not is completely irrelevant. I wouldn't want messi if he had a Scots granny. In an already diluted criteria to qualify for an international, I feel at the very least if you've made a decision then be honest enough to stick to it and don't take the piss out if the concept of national competition. FIFA allow it though so what can you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: It's well debated and people have different thoughts on the matter, but as a starter for ten I'd suggest people who've played for another country are surely non Scots by definition. Unless they have dual nationality. Â Or are you suggesting that people can only have one nationality? Â What nationality is Anya? Â Nigerian father, Romanian mother, born in Scotland, raised in England? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 12 minutes ago, adamntg said: Unless they have dual nationality. Â Or are you suggesting that people can only have one nationality? Â What nationality is Anya? Â Nigerian father, Romanian mother, born in Scotland, raised in England? Â I don't think my point is hard to decipher. As far as international football is concerned, I think once you have represented a nation, then yes, you can only have one nationality. I don't think that's unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 40 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: Whether he turns out to be a player or not is completely irrelevant. I wouldn't want messi if he had a Scots granny. In an already diluted criteria to qualify for an international, I feel at the very least if you've made a decision then be honest enough to stick to it and don't take the piss out if the concept of national competition. FIFA allow it though so what can you do! Good wan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: I don't think my point is hard to decipher. As far as international football is concerned, I think once you have represented a nation, then yes, you can only have one nationality. I don't think that's unreasonable. Indeed. It's only hard to understand if you're hard of thinking.  4 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Good wan Either would I. He's not Scottish. That's the point of international football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 18 hours ago, Paulo2576 said: ...a feeling of dread when we unearth anither 'legible'. Chortle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Parklife said: Indeed. It's only hard to understand if you're hard of thinking.  Either would I. He's not Scottish. That's the point of international football. I'd make an exception for (probably) the best player who's ever existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo2576 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, ProudScot said: I'd make an exception for (probably) the best player who's ever existed. I wouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Paulo2576 said: I wouldn't Well i'm glad you don't pick the team then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 9 hours ago, Bino's said: it might have stopped us from being even worse Geezo - that's depressing !  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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