Donaldo87 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Decent wee show last night at Mar Hall talking about the forthcoming games etc. Spoke to Strachan, Anya, Morrison, The chef and the video analyst A couple of well known TA boys and girls there as well. Worth a wee listen to pass the time if you missed it http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04b31w5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 "Dichotomy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Aye it was a good listen. Interesting listening to Tom English on why he doesn't understand why so many Scottish football fans in general are so negative about everything to do with the national team. Him being from Ireland, a positive independent nation, It obviously hasn't yet occurred to him that it's drummed into you at young age to be overly pessimistic about most Scottish things such as the national team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 15 hours ago, JECK said: Aye it was a good listen. Interesting listening to Tom English on why he doesn't understand why so many Scottish football fans in general are so negative about everything to do with the national team. Him being from Ireland, a positive independent nation, It obviously hasn't yet occurred to him that it's drummed into you at young age to be overly pessimistic about most Scottish things such as the national team lets see; not qualifying in 18 years; poor performances in key qualifiers in the last campaign; continuing baffling squad selections; regimented tactics; ridiculous ticket pricing; Hampden stewarding; unappealing kick off times; little co-ordination with scotrail/GCC on transport around home games; attempted corporate standardisation of home game environment (no flags; shitty bland goal music); and a general lack of wit and enthusiasm from the TA clubs to create new songs/chants to make a more enjoyable and unique atmosphere. a lot of the above is easily fixed. nothing to do with indoctrinated pessimism or not seeing ourselves as a vibrant independent country like Ireland. winning and qualifying would be a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Return of Yermaw said: lets see; not qualifying in 18 years; poor performances in key qualifiers in the last campaign; continuing baffling squad selections; regimented tactics; ridiculous ticket pricing; Hampden stewarding; unappealing kick off times; little co-ordination with scotrail/GCC on transport around home games; attempted corporate standardisation of home game environment (no flags; shitty bland goal music); and a general lack of wit and enthusiasm from the TA clubs to create new songs/chants to make a more enjoyable and unique atmosphere. a lot of the above is easily fixed. nothing to do with indoctrinated pessimism or not seeing ourselves as a vibrant independent country like Ireland. winning and qualifying would be a start. Following Scotland must be an absolute pleasure for you....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It was a decent show, I thought the fans on the show were a bunch of happy clappers but I might be on my own there. i preferred mondays sportsound with Barry Ferguson. He was very open about his antics in the Scotland camp, I was surprised at how much regret he showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Return of Yermaw said: lets see; not qualifying in 18 years; poor performances in key qualifiers in the last campaign; continuing baffling squad selections; regimented tactics; ridiculous ticket pricing; Hampden stewarding; unappealing kick off times; little co-ordination with scotrail/GCC on transport around home games; attempted corporate standardisation of home game environment (no flags; shitty bland goal music); and a general lack of wit and enthusiasm from the TA clubs to create new songs/chants to make a more enjoyable and unique atmosphere. a lot of the above is easily fixed. nothing to do with indoctrinated pessimism or not seeing ourselves as a vibrant independent country like Ireland. winning and qualifying would be a start. The most concerning thing for me about it was that all of the fans on the show were happy-clappers. "Strachan is wonderful, we've improved so much, we were unlucky last campaign, one bad game, etc." Most of them seemed more interested in saying how many games they'd been too and how great a fan they were. Which sums up a large proportion of the away support and high pointers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 33 minutes ago, Parklife said: The most concerning thing for me about it was that all of the fans on the show were happy-clappers. "Strachan is wonderful, we've improved so much, we were unlucky last campaign, one bad game, etc." Most of them seemed more interested in saying how many games they'd been too and how great a fan they were. Which sums up a large proportion of the away support and high pointers. Last night was a decent show incredibly the only two to speak sense were Amy McDonald and Frank Mcavennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Amy McDonald I love her. Which makes me dislike Ricky Foster even more than i already did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Just now, Parklife said: I love her. Which makes me dislike Ricky Foster even more than i already did She hit the nail on the head, "same old faces who have already failed scotland" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: It was a decent show, I thought the fans on the show were a bunch of happy clappers but I might be on my own there. i preferred mondays sportsound with Barry Ferguson. He was very open about his antics in the Scotland camp, I was surprised at how much regret he showed. Aye the Barry Ferguson one was really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 39 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: She hit the nail on the head, "same old faces who have already failed scotland" Only caught about 10-15 minutes of it last night. But I thought she was really good. Certainly a lot better than Frank McAvennie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipped flake Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Return of Yermaw said: lets see; not qualifying in 18 years; poor performances in key qualifiers in the last campaign; continuing baffling squad selections; regimented tactics; ridiculous ticket pricing; Hampden stewarding; unappealing kick off times; little co-ordination with scotrail/GCC on transport around home games; attempted corporate standardisation of home game environment (no flags; shitty bland goal music); and a general lack of wit and enthusiasm from the TA clubs to create new songs/chants to make a more enjoyable and unique atmosphere. a lot of the above is easily fixed. nothing to do with indoctrinated pessimism or not seeing ourselves as a vibrant independent country like Ireland. winning and qualifying would be a start. I sort of agree with a lot of what you posted but, to me, the biggest reason for me losing most(all?) interest in Scotland was the referendum result. I just don't feel the pride I used to have supporting my country? anymore. I'm going tomorrow, mainly due to it being the only Saturday game and I can catch up with mates I've not really seen for ages. It will be my only game of the campaign. Of course a great win tomorrow and on Tuesday might cheer me up a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFootSoldier Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Amy had pass marks for me although she did go on a bit. Disagreed with with her view that we are not bringing through players because we are negative about the scottish game. I felt spiers & co were humouring her at that point. Generally think sportsound has a pretty good mix of people on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 37 minutes ago, scot scotland scottish said: Only caught about 10-15 minutes of it last night. But I thought she was really good. Certainly a lot better than Frank McAvennie! I think McAvennie was pished, the discussion was about the last campaign and he started having a rant about Zonal marking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scot scotland scottish Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 56 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: I think McAvennie was pished, the discussion was about the last campaign and he started having a rant about Zonal marking I feared he was going to quote Strachan exactly word for word when he was telling the 'Rodney' story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The stuff in Mar Hall was interesting but why are they not in the new Orian centre in Edinburgh? Also enjoyed the previous nights interview with Barry Ferguson. Very remorseful and honest. McAvennie brings nothing to a conversation. He said tournaments miss Scotland but they seem to have done ok without us. Amy MacDonald knows little about football going off about English football ignoring tv money and worldwide demand. I'd rather have 2 youth coaches on than those 2. The pause when the question was asked "who excites you in the squad?" As with others don't get the praise for people holidaying to watch Scotland. They have the £. They are not going hungry. It's easy to travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Parklife said: The most concerning thing for me about it was that all of the fans on the show were happy-clappers. "Strachan is wonderful, we've improved so much, we were unlucky last campaign, one bad game, etc." Most of them seemed more interested in saying how many games they'd been too and how great a fan they were. Which sums up a large proportion of the away support and high pointers. your last point is spot on, perhaps with more discerning fans we may be able exert a little more pressure on the governing bodies who are less interested on consuming 20 pints in a foreign square and jumping in a fountain. a classic 'look at me' mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aljay Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 hours ago, dipped flake said: I sort of agree with a lot of what you posted but, to me, the biggest reason for me losing most(all?) interest in Scotland was the referendum result. I just don't feel the pride I used to have supporting my country? anymore. I'm going tomorrow, mainly due to it being the only Saturday game and I can catch up with mates I've not really seen for ages. It will be my only game of the campaign. Of course a great win tomorrow and on Tuesday might cheer me up a bit You are me, and I claim my five pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of Yermaw Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 9 hours ago, northernscum said: Following Scotland must be an absolute pleasure for you....... its not. but it could be so much better. but i go along as a long suffering fan in the hope it will get better - like club fans do. if you are going along skipping thinking things are brilliant then fair do's - "who gives a monkeys about all the issues lets start another round of doe a deer........" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernscum Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 58 minutes ago, Return of Yermaw said: its not. but it could be so much better. but i go along as a long suffering fan in the hope it will get better - like club fans do. if you are going along skipping thinking things are brilliant then fair do's - "who gives a monkeys about all the issues lets start another round of doe a deer........" Nah, I am probably somewhere in between the complete desolation you feel for the national team and the ones who skip along merrily ignoring all of the underlying issues of our game. If everyone went along looking and acting like we were all heading to the gallows, I wouldn't think that would do the guys on the park much good in the confidence stakes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveheartGordon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 9 hours ago, Parklife said: The most concerning thing for me about it was that all of the fans on the show were happy-clappers. "Strachan is wonderful, we've improved so much, we were unlucky last campaign, one bad game, etc." Most of them seemed more interested in saying how many games they'd been too and how great a fan they were. Which sums up a large proportion of the away support and high pointers. I know this is a weird thing to say coming from a fan, but the opinions of individual fans actually don't matter or affect the result ? I'd be concerned if our players had a ''happy clapper'' mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Listening to it now and strachan just told tom english WHATS IT GOT TAE DAE WI YOU after being asked if his mood changes the closer it gets to a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 On Friday, October 07, 2016 at 8:16 AM, vanderark14 said: I preferred mondays sportsound with Barry Ferguson. He was very open about his antics in the Scotland camp, I was surprised at how much regret he showed. Interesting to hear him say that. Although I had to switch it over, due to the combination of his voice and the sad piano... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 anyone listen to this regularly? I listen to the podcast every morning when one is available. Stewart Gilmour and Les Gray were the guests. Gilmour was very critical of Peter Lawell and Doncaster. Les Gray disagreed with him. Gilmour on Lawell ”I think you’re hitting the nail right on the head. I think that’s one of the problems of having a weak Rangers, shall we say, obviously they’re coming back and I don’t mean any offence whatsoever in that. “I think it was healthier for the game when we had a strong Rangers so we had two particularly strong clubs.” Show presenter Kenny McIntyre then asked “Who is running Scottish football?” Gilmour said: “Oh, Kenny I don’t think you need to ask me that. Are you trying to tell me that Peter’s not pulling the strings? Peter Lawwell ? “And by the way I don’t mean any offence to Peter. Peter’s job is the chief executive of Celtic Football Club and in terms of that job and his key primary role, Peter does a fantastic job. “Does Peter do a great job for Scottish football? Hmm. How many times are we talking about new TV deals and various other things and trying to promote the game – and what comes out the box again? Us (Celtic) going to England. “Some of the chairmen that attend the meetings will not take Peter on. I think he’s got too much power on other clubs.” Gilmour on Doncaster - He added: “If you look back through the whole Rangers saga and chairmen of Premier League clubs, and I won’t embarrass them this evening, sat in a room in Gleneagles and said: ‘Let’s get all this sorted first of all and then we’ll sort him.” McIntyre asked if he meant they all wanted Doncaster out, Gilmour said: “Yes. Chairmen of current Premier League clubs. They all said ‘we’ll get the amalgamation (creation of SPFL) sorted then we’ll sort that. “He’s got no credibility with supporters. It’s the way he has conducted himself throughout the whole time.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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