phart Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Check this SKY interview out. they just cut him off when he says stuff they dont want to hear. Former head of UK forces in Iraq General J Shaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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phart Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 mi6 via the white-helmets i imagine, if it's true. Who knows these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 The Jonathan Shaw interview is incredible It's as if they deliberately want to flame conspiracy theories Could Assad have undertaken a double bluff as in nobody would think he was daft enough to do that in the current climate so he did it ? Thats the only explanation i can give for him doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Maybe they just wanted to show that they are better at using chemical weapons than the Russians are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Why gas 30 woman and children and no rebels? What's the point in risking getting the Libya treatment from US UK and France? So much info out there it's almost like white noise who knows what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Unrolled twitter thread from Sharmine Narwani https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/973661866395361280.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Well that's it kicked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Well OPCW can't visit the site to independently verify shit now, they were literally due to start in the morning. Syria has a missle defence system as well so i guess we'll be seeing how it works. Let's hope it's just some posturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 hours ago, phart said: Well OPCW can't visit the site to independently verify shit now, they were literally due to start in the morning. Syria has a missle defence system as well so i guess we'll be seeing how it works. Let's hope it's just some posturing. Hopefully it's a one off but now any time anti Assad forces (aka Islamist terrorists) want a bit of help they know what to do. Unbelievable timing when OPCW inspectors were due to check the site of the alleged gas attack today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 8 hours ago, phart said: Well OPCW can't visit the site to independently verify shit now, they were literally due to start in the morning. Syria has a missle defence system as well so i guess we'll be seeing how it works. Let's hope it's just some posturing. Convenient really They're so on their high horses about this event though it was probs them that did it. Don't give a fuck about Yemen or Palestine though etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I am sick to death with too many countries trying to act like the moral policemen/guardians of the world when they lack the morals to do so. After all they started a war in the same region just over a decade ago claiming Iraq had WMD - and it turned out they didn't. And did the USA not just bomb Syria last year claiming it would wipe out their chemical factories? Hmm what the hell happened there then? If my history is correct there has been conflicts/bombing etc in the Middle East since the late 1940s. Countless bombing sortes/mini-wars/invasions has had no effect whatsoever and neither will this latest action. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it that (if we last that long) in fifty years time that region of the world will still be in conflict. The super powers should butt out and pull all troops and equipment out and leave them to kill each other off. China have the right idea when conflicts arise. They keep their opinions to themselves and don't get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Anyone want to make some more sarky remarks to my Bolton post ? Anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Ally Bongo said: Anyone want to make some more sarky remarks to my Bolton post ? Anyway I posted this to my mate yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 “A US mistake” Its always a mistake isn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: “A US mistake” Its always a mistake isn’t it? History will always be the judge Intervening can be a mistake just as staying well out of it could be Leaving aside (mostly) American and Russian foreign policy the Arab middle east has a hotbed of religious fanatics on several sides that would love nothing more than to have an iron fist over one another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: History will always be the judge Intervening can be a mistake just as staying well out of it could be Leaving aside (mostly) American and Russian foreign policy the Arab middle east has a hotbed of religious fanatics on several sides that would love nothing more than to have an iron fist over one another Who writes the history though? The gulf war, Vietnam, even Ukraine. Do we really know what happened? War propaganda is rampant. Depending on what source you use, the US, NATO etc have been intervening in Syria and this “civil war” has been engineered to force regime change. As someone who leans towards the conspiracy side of things I can believe that. NATO backed rebels to take down Assad doesn’t seem that far fetched. Would they manufacture chemical attacks to get the public onboard? I don’t see why not. The only mistake here is that Assad’s head isn’t on a stick and that Russia decided Syria wouldn’t become another Libya. Edited April 16, 2018 by ParisInAKilt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-war-in-syria-was-a-us-intervention-since-day-one″/5636261 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Good read https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/syria-chemical-attack-gas-douma-robert-fisk-ghouta-damascus-a8307726.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Social media has emerged as a key battleground in the U.S. and Russian media campaign to promote their sharply divergent accounts of chemical weapons in Syria. The intelligence assessments presented over the weekend by the United States and France to justify missiles strikes against Syria for its alleged use of chemical weapons in a Damascus suburb relied to an unusual degree on information gleaned from open source material and social media. Russia, meanwhile, is mustering an army of internet trolls to shift blame for the chemical weapons attack. The development reflects the evolution of social media as a key source of propaganda on Syria but also as a critical source of evidence in building a case for airstrikes. “I can’t think of any other examples where so quickly online footage has been used as one of the main justifications for military action,” says Ben Nimmo, who studies disinformation as a fellow at the Atlantic Council. http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/17/how-social-media-built-the-case-for-trumps-strike-on-syria/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 It's funny stuff like this get's on wiki so fast these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 UN troops letting police walking into rebel ambushes . Least they are no raping Haitians this time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-43957320/austrian-un-peacekeepers-investigated-over-syria-ambush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Liam O'HareVerified account @Liam_O_Hare Israel tonight bombed several positions in Syria and received 20 rockets back in response. A serious escalation just a day after the Trump announcement on Iran. It’s shaping up to be a hot summer on the border and it’s quite easy to tell who is to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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