tangerinetartan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I see that wage thief is continuing his usual form played 5 lost them all gone by Xmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 WAs he not being lined up for (rumoured admittedly) the Celtic job 12 months ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 WAs he not being lined up for (rumoured admittedly) the Celtic job 12 months ago ? Selling burgers, aye. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macy37 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 To be fair he's inherited an absolute crock of shite at York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Was gutted when he left thistle. At Dundee United was he not hampered by the sales or is there other to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 How many defeats in a row is this now? I believe he was the first ever York manager to lose their first 3 games in charge. It wont be his fault though. He'll have found someone else to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Was gutted when he left thistle. At Dundee United was he not hampered by the sales or is there other to it? The story that he was on a commission for selling players dampened any sympathy for him losing so many players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Was gutted when he left thistle. At Dundee United was he not hampered by the sales or is there other to it? As was I, until I took a step back and realised that we were actually a better team once Archibald took over. I thought our season was over when I heard he was away to Utd but I think it actually got us promoted in the end. Our away form under McNamara at that point was really poor for a team aiming to win the league. If i remember correctly the first game we played after he left was away to Morton, and we played reasonably well and drew 2-2 albeit we threw away a 2 goal lead. Morton were 8 clear of us at that stage and had we lost that game i think Morton would have went up that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 2 cup defeats, then 3 league defeats now for JM, not the best opening 5 games for him. I thought he did OK at Utd, but he was a right c'nt in interviews, he never seemed to take any responsibility, seemed impervious to criticism levied at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 2 cup defeats, then 3 league defeats now for JM, not the best opening 5 games for him. I thought he did OK at Utd, but he was a right c'nt in interviews, he never seemed to take any responsibility, seemed impervious to criticism levied at him. He did do OK for a while kumnio but his lack of ideas when plan A failed was a killer. See St Johnstone cup final for example and then loss of GMs and Armstrong. While he had a good squad he did quite well but with the team we had he should have. He completely lacked ideas when things went badly and some of his team changes during games were quite frankly bizarre. At times he just could not see the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 He's more interested in lining his own pocket than being a good football manager. See his testimonial v Ireland for an early example. He deserves the success he's currently experiencing. He-fukkin-haw. Good player, right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Good player, right enough. Aberdeen fans would argue differently. Feckin wage thief with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black'n'tan Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Sacnamara will get his jotters soon, no *~@&%ing use as a manager, no plan A, plan B ....what's that, plan C ....yeah took that too far. Couldn't even motivate for a cup final......twice! Inherited a team with a bunch of good players who could go out and...just play . Sold a few and replaced with players needing managed...... JM is actually shit at that . Soon to be unemployed I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Get a grip guys. He's gone, leave him alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Couldn't even motivate for a cup final......twice!Nothing to do with getting beaten by a better Saints side? This is the crap that usually comes from an Old-firm fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Nothing to do with getting beaten by a better Saints side? This is the crap that usually comes from an Old-firm fan. I would say Utd had considerably better players that season but they had little idea how to play against St J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I would say Utd had considerably better players that season but they had little idea how to play against St J.Separate players do not make a better team unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Separate players do not make a better team unit. As was demonstrated in the Scottish Cup Final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 As was demonstrated in the Scottish Cup Final.I'd also argue that your players were not "considerably" better either. You had some decent youngsters. We had a better strikeforce for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) I'd also argue that your players were not "considerably" better either. You had some decent youngsters. We had a better strikeforce for a start. It's not worth arguing about. The Johnnies won the cup. The rest is subjective. I just wish we still had Ryan Gauld, Andy Robertson, Nadir Ciftci, GMS and Armstrong in our team. That we couldn't score against Steven Anderson and Dave Mackay time and time again with these boys in the team was a fairly damning indictment of McNamara's tactical nous. Edited November 26, 2015 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It's not worth arguing about. The Johnnies won the cup. The rest is subjective. I just wish we still had Ryan Gauld, Andy Robertson, Nadir Ciftci, GMS and Armstrong in our team. That we couldn't score against Steven Anderson and Dave Mackay time and time again with these boys in the team was a fairly damning indictment of McNamara's tactical nous. Aye, fair enough. My original gripe was never with you. Just a couple of others who seemed to think if United were organised a bit better then the cup would somehow rightfully have been theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Nothing to do with getting beaten by a better Saints side? This is the crap that usually comes from an Old-firm fan. your missing the point and getting offended when no offence is intended. we were comprehensivley beaten by you in the cup final despite having at least as good a team and some would argue better players. It is not a slight on st johnstone, the point being made is that our manager didnt know what to do against you lot even after 4 previous failed attempts. that says a lot. not about the st johnstone players but about Mcnamara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Aye, fair enough. My original gripe was never with you. Just a couple of others who seemed to think if United were organised a bit better then the cup would somehow rightfully have been theirs. not rightfully ormond but with a team of players capable of beating most other SPL teams at the time, we consistently failed agianst saints. that implies poor management decisions and team set up rather than that utd were a poorer side than saints were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 not rightfully ormond but with a team of players capable of beating most other SPL teams at the time, we consistently failed agianst saints. that implies poor management decisions and team set up rather than that utd were a poorer side than saints were.Or it could just say that Saints were consistently a better side than United...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Or it could just say that Saints were consistently a better side than United...... but they werent were they. over last 3 seasons utd finished above saints twice. equal maybe but not consistently better. And if you think saints have had better players than utd over the past 3 seasons you need your head looked at. Hence the argument above re team management versus player quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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