sbcmfc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Did you miss NI qualifying with Josh Magennis up front? And their Talisman Kyle Laugherty! Steve Davis is possibly marginally better than most of our options in midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I think the template for automatic qualification would have been as follows....budget for nothing against Germany, 4pts from Eire, 4pts from Poland, 6 pts from Gibraltar, 6 pts from Georgia. In amongst that we could have afforded one slip and still been in with a shout but typically we had two. The defeat in Tbilisi and the loss of the late goal against Poland. That said I thought we were lucky in Warsaw, they absolutely battered us after Milik came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ireland and Poland showed that we shouldn't be budgeting for zero points against anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ireland and Poland showed that we shouldn't be budgeting for zero points against anyone spot on here PIAK, as soon as you start playing for anything but a win, you set yourself up for a fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 spot on here PIAK, as soon as you start playing for anything but a win, you set yourself up for a fall. I'd look upon anything from the games against Germany as a bonus, from that point of view we were slightly unfortunate that Germany dropped points early in the campaign and in the 2nd last game having qualified. We played them when they needed to win. In an ideal world for us, Germany would win every game apart from maybe dropping points against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ireland and Poland showed that we shouldn't be budgeting for zero points against anyone Yet we got none. We're the ones who haven't qualified for two decades principally because we've failed in games we should have been expected to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally boy 69 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Did you miss NI qualifying with Josh Magennis up front? Very true and by same token Albania have qualified, then you get Holland that didn't....so what??? We got undone by one piss poor performance in Georgia which frankly fu@@ed our campaign on the spot....that said our record over last 20 years is dreadful but we are not producing players that are good enough.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ally boy 69, on 22 Oct 2015 - 2:13 PM, said: We got undone by one piss poor performance in Georgia *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Very true and by same token Albania have qualified, then you get Holland that didn't....so what??? We got undone by one piss poor performance in Georgia which frankly fu@@ed our campaign on the spot....that said our record over last 20 years is dreadful but we are not producing players that are good enough.... Nope. Can't agree. Our draw in Dublin was very poor from Strachan also. He set out at the start of that game for the draw. Unacceptable mindset and that mindset is what holds us back as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Agreed we should have went all out for a win. We give too many average teams too much respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Bottom line is: Meaningful International football is actually quite rare for the majority of young adult Scotland fans. I say meaningful because I’m not including friendlies – as they are no better than a kick about. We only have about 5 games a year so there isn’t that much to get excited about compared with club football (games non stop from Aug-May.) To me the whole tournament IS the qualifying campaign. It’s just qualifying campaign after qualifying campaign, no end product! There hasn’t been since 1998. No wonder the nation just accepts that we just a team that takes part in the group but never make the final. That’s what we’re used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally boy 69 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Nope. Can't agree. Our draw in Dublin was very poor from Strachan also. He set out at the start of that game for the draw. Unacceptable mindset and that mindset is what holds us back as a team. If we had won in Georgia we would have been playing Poland at hampden with winner finishing 2nd.....possible different mindset if that was the case??? Even drawing that as we did we would have play off.....It was quite clearly Georgia fooked it all up.....all other results and largely performances were up to par....we blew in tbilisi.....simples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 If we had won in Georgia we would have been playing Poland at hampden with winner finishing 2nd.....possible different mindset if that was the case??? Even drawing that as we did we would have play off.....It was quite clearly Georgia fooked it all up.....all other results and largely performances were up to par....we blew in tbilisi.....simples Pish. If we had won in Ireland we would have went through to the play-off on a head to head with the Irish. That's even taking into account our loss against Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 so it's all the fault of Georgia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 so it's all the fault of Georgia? lets never draw those fkers again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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