1ANDYP Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Because ireland never let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) bollocks last 20 mins of Ireland Poland game Ireland realised they were ####ed and started battering the ball into the polish box from the half way line, fluking a knock down in the last minute That is utter rubbish. ....we created loads of chances and we're on top of them for most of that halfWe had them on the rack for that half. You were watching a completely different game if you actually believe your post....or are just talking through your arse Draw was fair...as Poland dominated the first half as we never got going And yes Scotland need to do exactly what we did in the second half ...don't sit back. Go for it and cracks can be found in their defence Edited September 11, 2015 by Green_Tide_Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 That is utter rubbish. ....we created loads of chances and we're on top of them for most of that half We had them on the rack for that half. You were watching a completely different game if you actually believe your post....or are just talking through your arse Draw was fair...as Poland dominated the first half as we never got going total crap long latched into a knock down last minute you tried to to play football for first hour and it went nowhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) total crap long latched into a knock down last minute you tried to to play football for first hour and it went nowhere Longs goal came from a knock down from a corner....it wasn't some punt from the half way line. We didn't try anything in the first half....we just sat back and let them attack us and Poland dominated us...we completely up the tempo in the second half and created chances from it. I was at the game....and I am recalling a very different game to you Edited September 11, 2015 by Green_Tide_Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Longs goal came from a knock down from a corner....it wasn't some punt from the half way line. We didn't try anything in the first half....we just sat back and let them attack us and Poland dominated us...we completely up the tempo in the second half and created chances from it. I was at the game....and I am recalling a very different game to you agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Longs goal came from a knock down from a corner....it wasn't some punt from the half way line. We didn't try anything in the first half....we just sat back and let them attack us and Poland dominated us...we completely up the tempo in the second half and created chances from it. I was at the game....and I am recalling a very different game to you Yeah I'll agree with that At half time I could only see one winner but combination of Ireland upping their game and Poland sitting on a lead changed the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanatyk Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 True that. And i`m sure we learned the lesson in Dublin and won`t let another second half vs Ireland to happen. Game in Frankfurt was a good example. Germany took the lead, added a second quickly but we started higher pressing, get the contact goal and almost an equaliser just before HT. And we could totally colapse after that two quick lockdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Longs goal came from a knock down from a corner....it wasn't some punt from the half way line. We didn't try anything in the first half....we just sat back and let them attack us and Poland dominated us...we completely up the tempo in the second half and created chances from it. I was at the game....and I am recalling a very different game to you From what i remember there were tactical changes at halftime, no? If there's one thing to be said about O'Neill, he makes good subs and knows how to change the balance of a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 From what i remember there were tactical changes at halftime, no? If there's one thing to be said about O'Neill, he makes good subs and knows how to change the balance of a game. i can't see any effect that O'Neill has had on Irelands play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 i can't see any effect that O'Neill has had on Irelands play Made some effective subs to give them the win against Georgia last week. Plus did the same against Poland (moved Hoolahan's position i think, plus sent McLean on, who certainly got stuck in (though prob should have been sent off, along with McCarthy)). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 i can't see any effect that O'Neill has had on Irelands play That's because it would go against your point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Made some effective subs to give them the win against Georgia last week. Plus did the same against Poland (moved Hoolahan's position i think, plus sent McLean on, who certainly got stuck in (though prob should have been sent off, along with McCarthy)).You are correct on tactical changes.Against Poland: First half we played 4-5-1 with Hoolahan playing in the hole behind Keane ..... half time o'neill changed to a more 4-4-2 .....allowing walters play more as a striker alongside Keane. But it also allowed Hoolahan to go deeper and get a better grip on midfield. We hit the post twice in the 2nd half....and finished the game with near 60% possession. ...a complete turnaround from the first half Mcleans introduction in the second half was great. He caused a lot of problems for Poland. With regards to his tackle. ..I genuinely believe it was a good tackle(but that's another days argument ). McCarthy shud have seen red....he barely touched the polish player (who went down like he had been shot ) but he did raise his hand and that does mean a red card. Similar against georgia. ...got Keane off at half time....replaced him with long. Walters pushed more forward, allowing Hendrick to be more centre mid and mclean coming on also provided attacking support out wide Edited September 11, 2015 by Green_Tide_Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ireland could beat germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 If ireland win at home to germany or away in warsaw, we are 4th Unless we both beat Poland, then Poland will be 4th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Unless we both beat Poland, then Poland will be 4th... And we beat Gibraltar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest allyc Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Yes Ireland could beat Germany.they shouldn't but they have a lot of fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 As I see it Germany are not guaranteed automatic qualification just yet so under those circumstances I would be gobsmacked if the super-efficient Germans don't get the desired result next month especially if they display the quality they did the other night. As for us against Poland I look at it this way. Poland impress in attack but their defence is susceptible as we saw in Warsaw and Germany prized them open three times and Ireland as well made them look vulnerable when under the cosh. Also look at their away form in this group and it hardly dazzles. Also Poland come into the match in a stick or twist sort of situation. A draw would guarantee them at least a play-off spot so the longer the game goes and they are at parity the more I'd expect them to defend what they have which must be good for us. We weren't dazzling the other night and have played better 9a lot better) under Strachan yet we still scored twice against the world champions. In short this is far from over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANDYP Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Correct as I said we have ####ed up once in this group with the rest being decent results. Hopefully we can beat the poles and the Germans do the business against ireland. Far from impossible. Let's not build up the poles too much. Edited September 12, 2015 by 1ANDYP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleSC Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 I'm sure the Germans wont relax as they will want to win the group especially with Poland only 2 points behind. I would rather have our games left than Irelands so 3rd place very much alive. Roll on 8th October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 My main concern going into the Poland match is our form and momentum. It is far from ideal we go into such a crunch match on the back of back-to-back defeats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 My main concern going into the Poland match is our form and momentum. It is far from ideal we go into such a crunch match on the back of back-to-back defeats. Is yere form that bad though? Excluding the georgia result. .... no shame in losing by 1 goal to germany....not really sure I'd put that result in the bad form category. ...if you know what I mean ? My worry is with ireland. ....that we tend to start games poorly. ...takes us awhile to get going. Can't be doing that against germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 My main concern going into the Poland match is our form and momentum. It is far from ideal we go into such a crunch match on the back of back-to-back defeats. You need to look at the whole campaign. Every team has had a bed spell. We have had ours as Gordon says this is far from over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Every team has had a bed spell. We have had ours I hope so and we're not still having it! Our performance in Warsaw was great, especially the 1st half. I think we kept possession for about 70%. No idea what's gone wrong since then, it's almost the same team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langtonian Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 You need to look at the whole campaign. Every team has had a bed spell. We have had ours as Gordon says this is far from over. We were average against the republic in Dublin,average against Gibraltar,utter mince against Georgia and hardly laid a finger on Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotsgary1 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 We were average against the republic in Dublin,average against Gibraltar,utter mince against Georgia and hardly laid a finger on Germany Eh ? You supporting the wrong side mate. Whet the f**k do you expect mate...................Brazil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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