kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/32179264 Expert finishing by Griffiths... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Everton with Osman and no Naisy.ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hanley not getting great plaudits from the Blackburn faithful this season. http://www.blackburn.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=392331 At the end of the day I say so what? As lomg as he is doing his part for Scotland that is good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Great to have some depth in this postion, Greer can also stand in if required. They are all decent but not of standard of past legnds we have had in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 At the end of the day I say so what? As lomg as he is doing his part for Scotland that is good enough for me. He didn't exactly cover himself in glory in the last to games he played for us. Think we need to look at an alternative until his form and injuries sort themselves out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 He didn't exactly cover himself in glory in the last to games he played for us. Think we need to look at an alternative until his form and injuries sort themselves out. Hmm I must have missed those games when we leaked goals because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hmm I must have missed those games when we leaked goals because of him. Where did I say that he made us leak goals? He was very nearly set off for a horrible tackle in the Ireland game and looked vulnerable throughout, if Ireland weren't so crap they could have easily exploited him as a weakness. I also have seen him play for Blackburn three times this season (at the game and not on tv) and he looked great in one game and very poor I'm the other two. Don't get me wrong, he is young and has time to improve. I hope he becomes a solid player for us but in the meantime we could do with someone in better form than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I honestly think Berra is better than Hanley. Faster and better on the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Where did I say that he made us leak goals? He was very nearly set off for a horrible tackle in the Ireland game and looked vulnerable throughout, if Ireland weren't so crap they could have easily exploited him as a weakness. I also have seen him play for Blackburn three times this season (at the game and not on tv) and he looked great in one game and very poor I'm the other two. Don't get me wrong, he is young and has time to improve. I hope he becomes a solid player for us but in the meantime we could do with someone in better form than him. Well you say he didn't exactly cover himself in glory and suggest we look elsewhere until form improves etc. Yet we have been keeping a heck of a lot of clean sheets lately with Hanley in the side so is that a crime worth dropping him for? I have seen several Scotland players make dubious challenges (scott Brown especially) who escape red cards but do we call for them to be dropped because of it? And Ireland are no mugs and in any case Hanley was in the defence when we kept a clean sheet in Croatia and won 1-0 and home to Croatia and won 2-0 so you see even better sides have not discovered these weaknesses you say he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wembley67lisbon Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 None of our centre backs are what you would call very good. Decent players but it's our weakest area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 None of our centre backs are what you would call very good. Decent players but it's our weakest area. Yes I did say that earlier. They do a decent job but aren't the class acts of some of our centre-halfs of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Well you say he didn't exactly cover himself in glory and suggest we look elsewhere until form improves etc. Yet we have been keeping a heck of a lot of clean sheets lately with Hanley in the side so is that a crime worth dropping him for? I have seen several Scotland players make dubious challenges (scott Brown especially) who escape red cards but do we call for them to be dropped because of it? And Ireland are no mugs and in any case Hanley was in the defence when we kept a clean sheet in Croatia and won 1-0 and home to Croatia and won 2-0 so you see even better sides have not discovered these weaknesses you say he has. We need to pick players in form, Hanley is injured and not in good form. Simple. If we were just picking players on past form Faddy would still be in the squad. Edited April 4, 2015 by kmcca5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Well you say he didn't exactly cover himself in glory and suggest we look elsewhere until form improves etc. Yet we have been keeping a heck of a lot of clean sheets lately with Hanley in the side so is that a crime worth dropping him for? I have seen several Scotland players make dubious challenges (scott Brown especially) who escape red cards but do we call for them to be dropped because of it? And Ireland are no mugs and in any case Hanley was in the defence when we kept a clean sheet in Croatia and won 1-0 and home to Croatia and won 2-0 so you see even better sides have not discovered these weaknesses you say he has. Also correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the last Croatia game in October 2013? It's now April 2015. So we pick a player because he has a good game over a year and a half ago.... Sounds all wrong to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 We need to pick players in form, Hanley is injured and not in good form. Simple. If we were just picking players on past form Faddy would still be in the squad. He is injured - yes. Not in good form? For Blackburn I cannot say but he hasn't caused us to drop points in matches so wouldn't say he wasn't in form for us which is all that matters really. After all Darren Fletcher was out for long spells and hadn't been great for us yet still got games for us so the Hanley situation is not unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Never mind. Jordan Rhodes and Tom Cairney on target today for Blackburn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Also correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the last Croatia game in October 2013? It's now April 2015. So we pick a player because he has a good game over a year and a half ago.... Sounds all wrong to me. I keep hearing you oozing about his weaknesses but have yet been pinpointed on games where he has costs us goals and the match as a consequence. By no means is he a Willie Miller or David Weir for us but alongside Martin they have formed a solid enough partnership at the centre of our defence and besides show me a better alternative and I am all ears but why change a formula if it works is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 To back this up - in the last seven competitive matches Hanley has played alongside Russell Martin at the heart of the defence our record has been:- Won 5 Drawn 0 Lost 2. We have conceded a total of five goals (with three games having conceded no goals) and the four we conceded were against Germany and Belgium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Unbelievable Jeff !!!! Charlie Adam just scored from 10-15 yards inside his own half ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcca5 Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 I keep hearing you oozing about his weaknesses but have yet been pinpointed on games where he has costs us goals and the match as a consequence. By no means is he a Willie Miller or David Weir for us but alongside Martin they have formed a solid enough partnership at the centre of our defence and besides show me a better alternative and I am all ears but why change a formula if it works is my opinion. FFS!!!! I didn't say he cost us goals, I said he is Injured and out of form for his club, that is why he shouldn't necessarily be our first choice. Are you simple or something I have said all this several times? Also you can stick your patronising "oozing" coments where the sun doesn't shine. For the record, I like Hanley and have championed him in the past, I want him to succeed as I do with all Scotland players, I am just stating that he might not be our best option right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 FFS!!!! I didn't say he cost us goals, I said he is Injured and out of form for his club, that is why he shouldn't necessarily be our first choice. Are you simple or something I have said all this several times? Also you can stick your patronising "oozing" coments where the sun doesn't shine. For the record, I like Hanley and have championed him in the past, I want him to succeed as I do with all Scotland players, I am just stating that he might not be our best option right now. I refer you to the Hanley/Martin stats when they have been at the heart of our defence. Why tamper with a formula that has done so well for us? And I myself have said he and our other central defenders are not in the same class as some of our best defenders but are solid enough. I am not one for changing things for change sake especially when other options are not as proven at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Well you say he didn't exactly cover himself in glory and suggest we look elsewhere until form improves etc. Yet we have been keeping a heck of a lot of clean sheets lately with Hanley in the side so is that a crime worth dropping him for? I have seen several Scotland players make dubious challenges (scott Brown especially) who escape red cards but do we call for them to be dropped because of it? And Ireland are no mugs and in any case Hanley was in the defence when we kept a clean sheet in Croatia and won 1-0 and home to Croatia and won 2-0 so you see even better sides have not discovered these weaknesses you say he has. To be fair, Hanley was like a bull in a china shop in the first half of the Ireland game. On another night he could easily have been sent off. I am not advocating dropping him, but since Berra is in great form at the moment Hanley's place in the starting eleven is no longer as secure as it was a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Depends when and if Hanley is back playing before the Ireland game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 To be fair, Hanley was like a bull in a china shop in the first half of the Ireland game. On another night he could easily have been sent off. I am not advocating dropping him, but since Berra is in great form at the moment Hanley's place in the starting eleven is no longer as secure as it was a few months ago. If Hanley is not fit then yes I'd opt for Berra or Greer partnering Martin. If Hanley is back to a decent level of fitness I'd put Hanley in alongside Martin. Their stats when playing alongside each other is pretty damned good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannannan Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 To be fair, Hanley was like a bull in a china shop in the first half of the Ireland game. On another night he could easily have been sent off. I am not advocating dropping him, but since Berra is in great form at the moment Hanley's place in the starting eleven is no longer as secure as it was a few months ago. Sensible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Maloney scored his first goal in mls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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