aaid Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I think if she was principled, she just might. However, I'm guessing that, as an individual with obvious intelligence, she's playing the percentages. She's hoping that she will float to the top of a Labour Party (North British Branch) clearly devoid of people capable to challenge her intellectually. She would be a big fish in a small pond. Switching to the SNP, however, would make her one of many. She's playing a careerist game. And good luck to her. And of course, the fact she stood for deputy leader would tend to suggest the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 One less scottish labour MP is. nail on the head SH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "One less Scottish Labour MP is" - Narrow minded, bad SNP. "I'd like us to gain as many seats as possible, but it would be encouraging to see Katy Clark returned" - Forward thinking, good SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "One less Scottish Labour MP is" - Narrow minded, bad SNP. "I'd like us to gain as many seats as possible, but it would be encouraging to see Katy Clark returned" - Forward thinking, good SNP. Just how much Viagra did you take ? That a 2 month steamer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "One less Scottish Labour MP is" - Narrow minded, bad SNP. "I'd like us to gain as many seats as possible, but it would be encouraging to see Katy Clark returned" - Forward thinking, good SNP. If Katy Clark decided to join the SNP would you still support her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 If Katy Clark decided to join the SNP would you still support her? It would be an odd decision given she's a Marxist, but I'm voting for her despite my dislike of Labour. So yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 It would be an odd decision given she's a Marxist, but I'm voting for her despite my dislike of Labour. So yes. Isn't inside today's Labour Party an odd place to be for a Marxist? Unless, of course, she has other plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Is she part of this lot? http://labourpartymarxists.org.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 To be honest this belief in organizations over people is a problem. Party Politics isn't efficient, people have less trust in organizations than ever before. Although it's natural to group up in such a manner i think it should be resisted. You create mixed loyalties between the party and the constituents. Automatic conflict of interest before you've even been elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 To be honest this belief in organizations over people is a problem. Party Politics isn't efficient, people have less trust in organizations than ever before. Although it's natural to group up in such a manner i think it should be resisted. You create mixed loyalties between the party and the constituents. Automatic conflict of interest before you've even been elected. It would be good to see proper representative politicians who actually properly consult with the folk who elect them and then actually represent their views in parliament. Instead of them constantly trying to tell us what to think. Never going to happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Isn't inside today's Labour Party an odd place to be for a Marxist? Unless, of course, she has other plans. She's part of the Labour Left group attempting to turn Labour back to its routes. Is she part of this lot? http://labourpartymarxists.org.uk/ I've no idea. You could ask her? She's part of this group: http://www.labourleft.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 It would be good to see proper representative politicians who actually properly consult with the folk who elect them and then actually represent their views in parliament. Instead of them constantly trying to tell us what to think. Never going to happen though. Yeah i was just making a general observation about the situation as a whole, party politics do create an instant conflict of interests between part and constituent. This is normally resolved as you say by MP's singing/tellling constituents lines from the old party hymm book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 ... The only party that can deliver independence is a party that doesn't stand for independence, is that what we're saying? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarshall678 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi guys can you take a few minutes to fill Out a survey for my university dissertation. It's on A.G.Barr's sponsorship of the commonwealth games, thank you. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VKHCN6D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi guys can you take a few minutes to fill Out a survey for my university dissertation. It's on A.G.Barr's sponsorship of the commonwealth games, thank you. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VKHCN6D Only if there is a question about Douglas Alexander and Katy Clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Hi guys can you take a few minutes to fill Out a survey for my university dissertation. It's on A.G.Barr's sponsorship of the commonwealth games, thank you. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VKHCN6D FFS man, I've filled it in 25 times already. How many times do you want us to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuNsTeR Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 She's part of the Labour Left group attempting to turn Labour back to its routes. I've no idea. You could ask her? She's part of this group: http://www.labourleft.co.uk/ well she is p!ssing in the wind ... because the Red Tories are lurching further towards blue tory territory when you have the likes of Ed Balls stating he wouldn't change any of Gideon's budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padre Andrew Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 She's part of the Labour Left group attempting to turn Labour back to its routes. I've no idea. You could ask her? She's part of this group: http://www.labourleft.co.uk/ The fact that there has to be a 'Labour Left' speaks volumes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 The fact that there has to be a 'Labour Left' speaks volumes Yes, yes it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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