Willie Macrae

[thplinth]

wow.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/541793/SNP-activist-killed-over-child-sex-files

[thplinth]

So turns out a vote for No was also a vote for Nonce.

[Grim Jim]

First time this has come out in mainstream media? The Express will be taking care. Only dead people accused, but do they have other names?

Does a copy of Macrae's document exist?

[Armchair Bob]

There used to be an organisation in the 70s called the Pedophile infomation exchange.

This group was right out in the open, appeared on TV, campaigning for the legal right to have sex with children.

At the same time authority figures were far more respected. Reading a Paul O'Grady autobiography, he finds out after the fact that a children's home he worked at as a young man was run by a paedo. He phoned an ex-colleague. They concluded to their horror that if a child had complained about sexual abuse their most likely response would have been to give them a smack round the lug and told them to stop lying.

The 70s. Yet one more thing the baby boomers ####ed up for future generations

[Armchair Bob]

I sometimes wonder what future generations will make of our mistakes. Will they laugh at us for frying our brains with mobile phones the same way we laugh at smokers for pickling their lungs? Or will they shake their heads in wonder at the way we fall for press propaganda the way we shake our heads in wonder at our forbears gullibility with respect to child abuse?

[Orraloon]

First time this has come out in mainstream media? The Express will be taking care. Only dead people accused, but do they have other names?

Does a copy of Macrae's document exist?

If it does still exist, the folk in possession might still be scared to bring it out into the open. There was a reason for why the MacRae murder was done in a way to cast enough doubt as to it being suicide. They wanted anyone else, who knew what MacRae did, to understand exactly what would happen to them if they didn't keep their mouth shut.

Does anybody on here drink in the Scottish pub in Tallinn?

[Jacobite]

If it does still exist, the folk in possession might still be scared to bring it out into the open. There was a reason for why the MacRae murder was done in a way to cast enough doubt as to it being suicide. They wanted anyone else, who knew what MacRae did, to understand exactly what would happen to them if they didn't keep their mouth shut.

Does anybody on here drink in the Scottish pub in Tallinn?

Was that the bar with no name ??? and yes bizarrely enough that ties into the death of Willie McRae with strands going everywhere.

[hampden_loon2878]

Why was there not a bigger outcry at the time of mcreas death?

[Orraloon]

Why was there not a bigger outcry at the time of mcreas death?

The Hilda Murrell murder got loads of coverage but I can't remember too much in the press about Willie MacRae. Maybe by that time folk had learnt that it was safer to keep their mouths shut?

[peever1745]

To this day the death of Willie McRae has been refused a public inquiry, now we know why. Our group built a cairn in Willies memory back in the late 80's early 90's around the spot where Willie was found,it got bulldozed over the side of the layby.A few years ago we built another one using the same stones from the original.He was one of ours so we felt we had to honor this man somehow.Here is a photo of the cairn.

[Flora MaDonald]

Was that the bar with no name ??? and yes bizarrely enough that ties into the death of Willie McRae with strands going everywhere.

Aye, that's the pub, and it certainly does tie-in with Willie's murder. Edited December 2, 2014 by Flora MaDonald

[phart]

I sometimes wonder what future generations will make of our mistakes. Will they laugh at us for frying our brains with mobile phones the same way we laugh at smokers for pickling their lungs? Or will they shake their heads in wonder at the way we fall for press propaganda the way we shake our heads in wonder at our forbears gullibility with respect to child abuse?

Anger at folk for being so domesticated and blind. Using credulity as a metric of Truth.

Incidentally all this sort of stuff was covered contemporaneously in Lobster and scallywag magazine. Scallywag magazine got the offices it rented bought out from under them by the Tory Party and all files and property lost, they actually got two accusers to separately take them to where they were abused and they all took them to the same house of a Tory-minded person.

then 5 of the children died in a fire as did a Tory MP. This is in connection with South Wales.

[phart]

On the Hilda Murrell murder that was attributed to WMD's although recent DNA evidence has convicted someone who was 16 at the time and a local burglar.

[Mindimoo]

Any good articles on this folks? Not totally familiar with the Macrae story.

Thanks.

[ErsatzThistle]

Any good articles on this folks? Not totally familiar with the Macrae story.

Thanks.

From the Scottish Republican Socialist Movement website:

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWhoKilledWillieMacRae.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaeCrimeScene.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaePressArticlesandClippings.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaeTheInvisibleGunRevisited.aspx

[Mindimoo]

From the Scottish Republican Socialist Movement website:

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWhoKilledWillieMacRae.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaeCrimeScene.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaePressArticlesandClippings.aspx

http://www.scottishrepublicansocialistmovement.org/Pages/SRSMWillieMacRaeTheInvisibleGunRevisited.aspx

Cheers

[Flora MaDonald]

Cheers

There's also a great book about it - Scotland's Secret War.

[Mindimoo]

There's also a great book about it - Scotland's Secret War.

Cheers

[sbcmfc]

Shortly after reading this thread, I saw this....

https://mobile.twitter.com/UK_Database_CSA/status/537985668425998337/photo/1

[phart]

Shortly after reading this thread, I saw this....

https://mobile.twitter.com/UK_Database_CSA/status/537985668425998337/photo/1

That's a worrying picture. Although not surprising which is dismaying.

[peever1745]

Also this Channel 4 documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsqJEN9ouY0

[peever1745]

Here is a wee bit of the play written by Andy Paterson 3000 trees the death of Willie McRae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwU9WVuDHp8

[thplinth]

These westminster and beyond nonce rings are clearly being given protection at the highest level. Special branch, the 'security' services, judges, prosecutors there is no one they cannot use to cover up their horrendous activities.

So if these scummers are being fed orphans to rape and kill for their pleasure by the people really running the show in the UK you have to ask for what purpose? Obviously you must think in order to control them.

Now putting aside the horror of someone capable of taking an innocent child (in their care) and giving them to sadistic rapists and killers in order to 'have the goods on them', putting that aside and what it says about these people, you first have to ask who the are they, who is doing this?

And then, what is their agenda?

[Guest flumax]

I'm half expecting the "magic circle" stuff to raise its head again soon https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/the-tragic-magic-circle-scotlands-shameful-child-sexual-abuse-scandal-continues/

Any of the legal folk still breathing, detract from London rings and show is a wider issue.

[Jacobite]

Look this whole child abuse thing should be dropped and forgotten about,its not that important and its preventing the police ,the army,navy and air force seeking out and dealing with SNP councillors burning bits of paper.