Gordon Strachan Stats

[davew]

Gordon Strachan has now won 8 matches as manager and moves ahead of Alex McLeish, Walter Smith, Ally MacLeod, and Tommy Docherty who all had 7. He's now equalled Berti Vogts record of 8 wins (although Berti needed twice as many games to get there).

Gordon Strachan has now been in charge for 16 games, the same number as Walter Smith, 2 more than George Burley, and 6 more than Alex McLeish.

Gordon Strachan has a win percentage of 50%. I reckon Walter Smith, with 43.75%, is the average. less than that (Levein, Vogts, Burley, Roxburgh) you're a failure, more than that (Brown) a success.

[hannibal smith]

Gordon Strachan has a win percentage of 50%. I reckon Walter Smith, with 43.75%, is the average. less than that (Levein, Vogts, Burley, Roxburgh) you're a failure, more than that (Brown) a success.

Billy Stark got 100%

[morrison1982]

Strachan's win rate is particularly good when you consider we have mostly been playing countries with stronger recent records than us during his time (i.e. teams that have qualified for tournaments in the last 5-10 years). The Gibraltar home game will be his first game against a true minnow.

[davew]

Billy Stark got 100%

I reckon a manager needs at least a dozen games before win percentage means anything.

McLeish, for example, has a 70% win percentage, but 10 games isn't enough to judge him on.

[jts73]

Hopefully can add another 4 wins( at least) in the qualifiers to see us into a tournament !

The thing that’s stands out for me is we can’t hold on to winning managers – hope GS will be an exception !

[wanderer]

The thing that’s stands out for me is we can’t hold on to winning managers – hope GS will be an exception !

Think Strachan is ours for the long run now......

Eck had not tried his luck in England, so was always going to be a case that he would be off with the first decent offer that came along.

Realisticly there is only a hand full of jobs that could prize Strachan away..... Man United (very unlikely!), Leeds United (which he would probably reject) and Celtic (again, probably reject the chance as he took them as far as he could... and unlike Smith at Rangers, Strachan was never fully appreciated/respected by the Celtic fans).

He has been around the block with Coventry, Southampton and Boro, so is very unlikely to be tempted by the likes of a Wolves, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest etc....

So really, there is very little to fear about Strachan being poached away from us.

[giblet]

Think Strachan is ours for the long run now......

Eck had not tried his luck in England, so was always going to be a case that he would be off with the first decent offer that came along.

Realisticly there is only a hand full of jobs that could prize Strachan away..... Man United (very unlikely!), Leeds United (which he would probably reject) and Celtic (again, probably reject the chance as he took them as far as he could... and unlike Smith at Rangers, Strachan was never fully appreciated/respected by the Celtic fans).

He has been around the block with Coventry, Southampton and Boro, so is very unlikely to be tempted by the likes of a Wolves, Blackburn, Nottingham Forest etc....

So really, there is very little to fear about Strachan being poached away from us.

he still has one more big job to go. To come home and manage his beloved Hibees.

[Robroysboy]

I dont think strachan would leave the scotland job even if he was offerred man utd.

He has stated that being national team manager suits him as he can be involved withhis family more in between games.

He is also thankfully has no emotional.connection with celtic, unlike smith had for rangers.

Strachan is on the verge of greatness, i am confident he will achieve that legendary status in this role.

In GORD we trust

[McToot]

Strachan's win rate is particularly good when you consider we have mostly been playing countries with stronger recent records than us during his time (i.e. teams that have qualified for tournaments in the last 5-10 years). The Gibraltar home game will be his first game against a true minnow.

Good point re the standard of opposition. The weakest team has been Estonia, which was his first game.

In my opinion the only result you could say was a poor one would be the Wales game and up until the penalty/sending off we looked to have the game won. Unlucky not to have got better results in the England, Nigeria, Germany and Poland games.

And to top it off. As well as a solid record, we are playing the best football we've played in a long time. Most positive, attacking football I've seen in Scotland in years.

[Tartan blood]

Strachan absolutely loves the attention, that comes with being an international manager, almost much as he loves Scotland.

For a week, 5 or 6 times a year, he is a God to us. I don't think he'd like to dilute that with club football.

As someone else said, if he takes us to a majors final, then he'll be a legend. Is there any chance of that happening at any club?

His ego, passion and patriotism won't let him leave.

[Robroysboy]

Strachan absolutely loves the attention, that comes with being an international manager, almost much as he loves Scotland.

For a week, 5 or 6 times a year, he is a God to us. I don't think he'd like to dilute that with club football.

As someone else said, if he takes us to a majors final, then he'll be a legend. Is there any chance of that happening at any club?

His ego, passion and patriotism won't let him leave.

Good post

[ParisInAKilt]

Think theres more chance of Strachan just retiring or taking a break, rather than leaving for a club side. Would be very surprised if he managed a club side again.

[Grumpyauldgit]

Here is the win % of every manager, who has had the team for 10 or more games

1 Alex McLeish 70

2 Ian McColl 60.71428571

3 Committee 59.05511811

4 Tommy Docherty 58.33333333

5 Gordon Strachan 50

6 Willie Ormond 47.36842105

7 Craig Brown 45.07042254

8 Walter Smith 43.75

9 Jock Stein 42.64705882

10 Craig Levein 41.66666667

11 Ally McLeod 41.17647059

12 Andy Roxburgh 37.70491803

13 Bobby Brown 32.14285714

14 Alex Ferguson 30

15 Berti Vogts 28.125

16 Andy Beattie 27.77777778

17 George Burley 21.42857143

Edited November 18, 2014 by Grumpyauldgit

[Parklife]

Here is the win % of every manager, who has had the team for 10 or more games

Rnk Manager Games Played Win Lost Drawn Goals For Goals Against Total Pts Win % 1 Alex McLeish 10 7 3 0 14 9 21 70 2 Ian McColl 28 17 8 3 77 52 54 60.71428571 3 Committee 254 150 56 48 636 326 498 59.05511811 4 Tommy Docherty 12 7 3 2 17 8 23 58.33333333 5 Gordon Strachan 16 8 5 3 18 16 27 50 6 Willie Ormond 38 18 12 8 55 39 62 47.36842105 7 Craig Brown 71 32 21 18 86 62 114 45.07042254 8 Walter Smith 16 7 4 5 26 15 26 43.75 9 Jock Stein 68 29 26 13 91 81 100 42.64705882 10 Craig Levein 24 10 9 5 29 29 35 41.66666667 11 Ally McLeod 17 7 5 5 26 21 26 41.17647059 12 Andy Roxburgh 61 23 19 19 67 60 88 37.70491803 13 Bobby Brown 28 9 11 8 37 35 35 32.14285714 14 Alex Ferguson 10 3 3 4 8 5 13 30 15 Berti Vogts 32 9 16 7 31 50 34 28.125 16 Andy Beattie 18 5 9 4 25 37 19 27.77777778 17 George Burley 14 3 8 3 8 21 12 21.42857143

Reading that hurts my brain.

[Grumpyauldgit]

Reading that hurts my brain.

Ssomething went wrong when I pasted the table, a more readable version will be going up in about10 minutes

[Armchair Bob]

Craig Levein is ranked higher than Andy Roxburgh?? Got to say that surprises me.

[Grumpyauldgit]

Hopefully, a more readable version, of the win% of Scotland mangers, who have had the team for 10 or more games

Rnk Manager G W L D GF GA Pts Win %

1 Alex McLeish 10 7 3 0 14 9 21 70

2 Ian McColl 28 17 8 3 77 52 54 60.71428571

3 Committee 254 150 56 48 636 326 498 59.05511811

4 Tommy Docherty 12 7 3 2 17 8 23 58.33333333

5 Gordon Strachan 16 8 5 3 18 16 27 50

6 Willie Ormond 38 18 12 8 55 39 62 47.36842105

7 Craig Brown 71 32 21 18 86 62 114 45.07042254

8 Walter Smith 16 7 4 5 26 15 26 43.75

9 Jock Stein 68 29 26 13 91 81 100 42.64705882

10 Craig Levein 24 10 9 5 29 29 35 41.66666667

11 Ally McLeod 17 7 5 5 26 21 26 41.17647059

12 Andy Roxburgh 61 23 19 19 67 60 88 37.70491803

13 Bobby Brown 28 9 11 8 37 35 35 32.14285714

14 Alex Ferguson 10 3 3 4 8 5 13 30

15 Berti Vogts 32 9 16 7 31 50 34 28.125

16 Andy Beattie 18 5 9 4 25 37 19 27.77777778

17 George Burley 14 3 8 3 8 21 12 21.42857143

[Grumpyauldgit]

Craig Levein is ranked higher than Andy Roxburgh?? Got to say that surprises me.

That did not suprise me, it totally shocked the sh*t out of me.

[wanderer]

Craig Levein is ranked higher than Andy Roxburgh?? Got to say that surprises me.

Not really.......

Going by the stats, Levein will be getting propped up by his record in friendlies (Celtic Cup, Denmark, Faroes, Czech Republic etc.....)..... Roxburgh record as a whole is pretty poor when you look back on him.

Euro 88 qualifiers we just stumbled our way through.... WC90 qualifiers we started like a runaway train, only to full at the final hurdle and just crawl over the finish line.... Euro 92 we got to on our home form, plus a good come back in Switzerland and other results going our way... and WC 94 we just never showed up for under Andy..... plus his record in friendlies was pretty poor.

Can make all you want of stats, but they are not a true reflection, unless you take it over a similar time period.... ie, by the logic that Billy Stark is our best manager with a 100% record and Tommy Burns our worst with a 0%.... but they both only had 1 game each.

Edited November 18, 2014 by wanderer

[wanderer]

Think theres more chance of Strachan just retiring or taking a break, rather than leaving for a club side. Would be very surprised if he managed a club side again.

Agree.

Only club I could ever have seen him maybe being able to tempt him back was Southampton, as way he always talks like he feels he had unfinished business there.... but again, I think chances are very remote.

Seems like he is happy with the deal he has just now..... he gets to live in his family home in the midlands where he is settled, he gets to continue his tv work which he enjoys, gets a chance to go watch football matches (to scout on players) and does not get bogged down with the day to day work around club football (which I have always suspected he could always have done without).

[Robroysboy]

Yes leviene pumped the Czechs 1_0 at Hampden in a friendly but when it mattered he could not deliver.

[Parklife]

Going by the stats, Levein will be getting propped up by his record in friendlies (Celtic Cup, Denmark, Faroes, Czech Republic etc.....)..... Roxburgh record as a whole is pretty poor when you look back on him.

Leveins wins:

- Czech Rep (Friendly)

- Liechtenstein x 2

- Faroes

- NI

- Wales

- Denmark

- Lithuania

- Cyprus

- Australia

And some folk thought he should keep his job. He beat no one of note in a match that mattered. I'd guess that our best win in a competitive game under him was a 1-0 win at home to Lithuania. Frightening.

[wanderer]

Yes leviene pumped the Czechs 1_0 at Hampden in a friendly but when it mattered he could not deliver.

As I said, stats can show you whatever you want, but are not a true reflection.

[Grumpyauldgit]

Somebody wanted the competitive stats, so here we go again

by the way my ideal of a competitive match is any game or tournament, with a cup at the end of it, so home internationals, kirin and carling cup games are included

Rnk Manager G Win Lost Drawn G/F G/A Pts Win %

1 Ian McColl 20 14 5 1 54 38 43 70

2 Alex McLeish 8 5 3 0 12 9 15 62.5

3 Tommy Docherty 10 6 2 2 14 6 20 60

4 Committee 191 108 43 40 460 245 364 56.54450262

5 Craig Brown 50 27 10 13 70 35 94 54

6 Walter Smith 13 7 3 3 22 9 24 53.84615385

7 Gordon Strachan 10 5 4 1 11 11 16 50

8 Willie Ormond 25 12 7 6 35 24 42 48

9 Ally McLeod 12 5 3 4 19 14 19 41.66666667

10 Jock Stein 56 23 21 12 71 66 81 41.07142857

11 Andy Roxburgh 44 17 14 13 51 45 64 38.63636364

12 Berti Vogts 13 5 4 4 14 16 19 38.46153846

13 George Burley 8 3 4 1 6 11 10 37.5

14 Bobby Brown 23 8 9 6 35 31 30 34.7826087

15 Craig Levein 15 5 6 4 17 16 19 33.33333333

16 Alex Ferguson 6 1 3 2 4 5 5 16.66666667

17 Andy Beattie 8 1 5 2 8 17 5 12.5

[wanderer]

I would say that is a much more true reflection.