ronaldhinos dentist Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Does anyone else feel there will be more Tory MP's in Scotland after the next general election?. Labour is dead in Scotland. Most No voters won't vote SNP, which leaves the unionist choice of conservative. They are already planning to target scottish voters.... Another kick in the teeth for us. Not only did we vote no, but we could get more Tories..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Definitely The Indy debate got the tories out.. there aint 2 million Labour voters here... Lib Vote collapsing all over and Labour phukked... Would be ironic if it was the Scottish who gave Cameron enuf tories to win next years election.. and wee ruthie had a guid referendum... I phukkin hate the tories btw, but I think they are coming back , the old and the selfish voted NAW now they will vote Tory..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'd disagree. Labour vote will hold up to a degree and SNP will take a high % of vote. Question is where under FPTP will Tories win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think the opposite. The Tories will switch to Labour as the best unionist bet in Scotland. Thus shoring up Labour's collapsing traditional vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My projection has the Tories on 3 seats. The ones that border England. Both picked up from the Libs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My dad voted no and he'll vote SNP next time. They do a decent job running the country in his opinion. FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Giant Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Question is where under FPTP will Tories win? Jim Murphy's seat must be a possibility. I, for one, would welcome it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Think somewhere like Argyll and Bute will probably go to the Tories. Edinburgh West might be another, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine as well. Michael Moore's seat in Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk could maybe just go to them too. The SNP really have to watch Banff and Buchan too, the Tories made a sizeable dent in the SNP majority there in 2011. Jim Murphy's seat must be a possibility. I, for one, would welcome it. The Tory vote will go up here in East Ren but Murphy's got a job for life here sadly. Plenty of la-di-da kunts here in Newton Mearns and elsewhere in Clarkston, Busby and Giffnock think the sun shines out of the lanky lying s ....... And there's loads of "Ma Da voted Labour and so did his Da, so I'll just vote fir them" types in Barrhead which gives Labour a healthy boost also. Edited September 29, 2014 by ErsatzThistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_fadiator Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Really don't think Tories will start voting Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My dad voted no and he'll vote SNP next time. They do a decent job running the country in his opinion. FFS. I think that's entirely understandable and logical. He thinks that as a party of government in Holyrood the SNP have done a good job. But he wants to remain part of the UK. I can see his thinking. I don't agree with it. But I can understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Really don't think Tories will start voting Labour. My wife's been doing it for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_fadiator Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I was meaning the remaining Tories. Understand their former voters probably went to Labour post-Thatcher. The majority of the remainder are more likely hardened Tories who hate Labour, not seeing the similarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 My wife's been doing it for years She's a Tory who's been voting Labour for years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyblue Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Argyll & Bute could be a genuine four horse race. It's been LD since 1987 but that must be under threat in May. Tories were second in 2010 and will fancy this I reckon. Labour were third last time and have a good candidate. I also think the percentage of labour 'yes' vote will have been lower than in the labour heartlands so they might not be hurt as much as they hopefully will be in Glasgow, North Lanarkshire and West Dunbartonshire. SNP were fourth on 18% last time and will hope to pick up the Yes effect. Mike Russell is the MSP. Could be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Going by the referendum they wont have any bother in banff and buchan, from what i have heard fraserburgh was 76% yes peterhead was yes, mintlaw was yes amongst other yes towns in the region... I heard fraserburgh had the highest yes vote in the country? Think somewhere like Argyll and Bute will probably go to the Tories. Edinburgh West might be another, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine as well. Michael Moore's seat in Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk could maybe just go to them too. The SNP really have to watch Banff and Buchan too, the Tories made a sizeable dent in the SNP majority there in 2011. The Tory vote will go up here in East Ren but Murphy's got a job for life here sadly. Plenty of la-di-da kunts here in Newton Mearns and elsewhere in Clarkston, Busby and Giffnock think the sun shines out of the lanky lying s ....... And there's loads of "Ma Da voted Labour and so did his Da, so I'll just vote fir them" types in Barrhead which gives Labour a healthy boost also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Argyll & Bute could be a genuine four horse race. It's been LD since 1987 but that must be under threat in May. Tories were second in 2010 and will fancy this I reckon. Labour were third last time and have a good candidate. I also think the percentage of labour 'yes' vote will have been lower than in the labour heartlands so they might not be hurt as much as they hopefully will be in Glasgow, North Lanarkshire and West Dunbartonshire. SNP were fourth on 18% last time and will hope to pick up the Yes effect. Mike Russell is the MSP. Could be close. OK. You're down to your last fiver. And you HAVE to put a bet on the outcome. Where's it going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyblue Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I don't know to what extent the LD will collapse but with a majority of around 4,000 I would stick with them for the fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donaldo87 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the county I grew up in voted Tory I'd disown the fecker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleboyblue Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If the county I grew up in voted Tory I'd disown the fecker. It was Tory for the first eight years of my life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Think somewhere like Argyll and Bute will probably go to the Tories. Edinburgh West might be another, West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine as well. Michael Moore's seat in Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk could maybe just go to them too. The SNP really have to watch Banff and Buchan too, the Tories made a sizeable dent in the SNP majority there in 2011. Aye, the Tories really threw everything at that seat in 2010 and achieved on hell of a swing (this was no doubt due, in part, to the fact that the MP standing down was a certain Mr A Salmond). I just hope Eilidh Whiteford's done enough to win the trust of her constituents. I think the hard core Tory vote will hold out in Scotland, but a lot of 'floating' unionists might gravitate towards Labour to tactically keep the SNP out. My concern is that they might make up the shortfall of any traditional Labour voters moving from Labour to the SNP. I also wonder how the other Yes parties will play it. Neither the Greens, the SSP or Solidarity picked up too many votes in 2010 but in some seats it could just take a few hundred votes to swing it. I wonder, then, if they will decide against fielding candidates in seats where the SNP have a good chance of winning, to avoid splitting the Yes vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dod Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The independence card isn't going away. Westminster have seen real democracy for the first time and it terrifies them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbers Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dumfries will go to the tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 There's a lot of hatred and resentment against the SNP for not curling up and dying after the referendum. That hatred will only increase amongst some now that the party is seen to be attracting a huge number of people who haven't given up on the idea of another referendum within a short period of time. The GE next year will almost certainly attract a higher turnout due to the leftover feeling from the referendum, and I have no doubt that the Tory vote in Scotland will increase on the back of newly discovered Unionism and/or a desire to keep the SNP out. Whether it'll be enough to gain any more seats, I'm not sure. Most probably in Lib Dem areas I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Think Darling might be on a sticky wicket for a Tory win in Edinburgh South West (Balerno, Currie, etc), cant see them winning in Edinburgh West. Looking at my prediction, I reckon we will see 4 Tory MP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We won't know what any of this means until Prof John Curtice has spake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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