bonny78 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Ffs.. Get strachen back in now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 So much for your wonder keeper Archer. Oh for the safe hands of Craig Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: So much for your wonder keeper Archer. Oh for the safe hands of Craig Gordon. It was Mcgregor i wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I think the goalkeeping performance and no shots on target are unconnected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: I think the goalkeeping performance and no shots on target are unconnected Correct. We need strykers. Thumb will be in team soon though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Can’t put the ball in the net without any service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, bonny78 said: Correct. We need strykers. Thumb will be in team soon though. We’ve got plenty of strikers, that’s why its a Scotland B & C team XI that have travelled.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 Ok. Canny wait for the real games.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 22 hours ago, bonny78 said: Ffs.. Get strachen back in now. And let me guess.........Dickov up front? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 44 minutes ago, bonzo said: And let me guess.........Dickov up front? And Gordon out of goal to be replaced by Archer. 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 We set up 100% defensive from the off. The players are in the squad to give us some options going forward, but McLeish put a side on the pitch to limit the goals taken. It was just a bit sad tbh. We could have gone with pace out wide, Christie, Morgan, Christie, Russell. But we didnt. I thought McGeough was an attacking mid.. but we played him as a number 6, meaning he offered nothing. With the midfield 3 all defensive minded and the wide players defensive minded, there was no chance of us being a significant attacking threat in the game. It's 100% how we set up. I'm really tired of this now. We've got some pace available. But here we are again with a frightened manager, being overly conservative, with his first thought being to keep the score down rather than give us a chance of victory, let alone letting the players be free to show what they can do. Organised and disciplined only gets you so far.. and it won't get us to a tournament. Tired of McLeish already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, andyD said: We set up 100% defensive from the off. The players are in the squad to give us some options going forward, but McLeish put a side on the pitch to limit the goals taken. It was just a bit sad tbh. We could have gone with pace out wide, Christie, Morgan, Christie, Russell. But we didnt. I thought McGeough was an attacking mid.. but we played him as a number 6, meaning he offered nothing. With the midfield 3 all defensive minded and the wide players defensive minded, there was no chance of us being a significant attacking threat in the game. It's 100% how we set up. I'm really tired of this now. We've got some pace available. But here we are again with a frightened manager, being overly conservative, with his first thought being to keep the score down rather than give us a chance of victory, let alone letting the players be free to show what they can do. Organised and disciplined only gets you so far.. and it won't get us to a tournament. Tired of McLeish already. I don't know. Being organised and defensive seems to have taken the irelands pretty far. Its certainly been our downfall. Defence has been shakey for years. Without brown breaking up play we were getting skelped Replacing brown, finding a centre back pairing and a decent right back is the order of the day. If the likes of Morgan or Mcgeouch breakthrough then it's a bonus. Armstrong, McGregor, Robertson and others will all improve forward momentum. Griffiths is our only decent striker. The rest are shite and there is nothing we can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, bonzo said: And let me guess.........Dickov up front? He s too old now but would have had him ahead of miller in 2006 ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Morrisandmoo said: I don't know. Being organised and defensive seems to have taken the irelands pretty far. Its certainly been our downfall. Defence has been shakey for years. Without brown breaking up play we were getting skelped Armstrong, McGregor, Robertson and others will all improve forward momentum. Griffiths is our only decent striker. The rest are shite and there is nothing we can do about it. Ireland have 2 main things which let them succeed thru being a reasonable organised and defensive unit tho. 1) Set pieces 2) Counter-attacking People like Brady, McClean and McGeady who could carry the ball at pace. Shane Long who had the pace to get in behind. Walters was a strong guy up front, and deliveries from people like Whelan and Houlihan. A big millstone around Scotland's neck for a long while has been a lack of pace. We saw what a difference Anya made when he first came into the side. We went from being almost locked into a 10 man defensive unit game after game to suddenly having more space to play in because of the fear of Anya's pace. For me, this team went back to those dark days of offering nothing in attack. With no threat, it's just a matter of time until you lose, and that's spirit breaking not just for us fans, but for the players. The future of Scotland's wide positions is not McLean and Murphy. If we're lucky we'll never see either of them out there again. What could be the future of Scotlands wide positions is Christie, Morgan, Cadden. So why on earth did we give them 20 minutes between them? And just the pure negativity of it, i can't get past. Where did McLeish expect us to get a goal from? Lump it at Phillips and hope he lucks one? Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Hunt Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 This whole 'tour' is a joke as we all know. Nothing to learn or gain from it as far as I am concerned with very few of the players anywhere near our first team so not upset at all. Actually feel sorry for the lads as they also know the score but I would have gone to get a Scotland cap had I been invited. No danger. If we beat Mexico 5-0 playing free-flowing, exciting, attacking football I may reconsider but the real judgement is reserved for Israel and Albania as this friendly replacement tournament (Nations League) gives us a chance of achieving what we all crave, albeit via the back door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, andyD said: Ireland have 2 main things which let them succeed thru being a reasonable organised and defensive unit tho. 1) Set pieces 2) Counter-attacking They also had Robbie Keane for many years. We haven't had a goal scorer like that since Denis Law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Dickov as coach shud solve our problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Two shots on target against Mexico. Heading in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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