thplinth Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 What should also be clear is that the people behind all this have ZERO interest in the humanitarian suffering they are causing. That should send a chill down all your spines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Putin thwarted them with his diplomacy last time they wanted to bomb Syria. His punishment was Ukraine. In my opinion the Malaysian plane was shot down by the Ukrainians and had nothing to do with Russia, Putin or Ukrainian rebels. Like the chemical attack claims the speed and uniformity of the blame being put on Putin & Russia before any investigation was done tells you who was really responsible. The Russians can only interpret this one way...a propaganda assault leading to an attack. One advisor is openly talking about WWIII...This has been the pattern we have seen now for many years, lies followed by an attack. And now they are squaring up to Russia. They want full spectrum dominance. That is only going to end one way (IMHO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serbo69 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Putin thwarted them with his diplomacy last time they wanted to bomb Syria. His punishment was Ukraine. In my opinion the Malaysian plane was shot down by the Ukrainians and had nothing to do with Russia, Putin or Ukrainian rebels. Like the chemical attack claims the speed and uniformity of the blame being put on Putin & Russia before any investigation was done tells you who was really responsible. The Russians can only interpret this one way...a propaganda assault leading to an attack. One advisor is openly talking about WWIII...This has been the pattern we have seen now for many years, lies followed by an attack. And now they are squaring up to Russia. They want full spectrum dominance. That is only going to end one way (IMHO). So does this make the Independence vote irrelevant? Was always my small bit of doubt in the whole thing. Does it really matter in the long term if we're an Independent Scotland, part of Britain or a region of Europe? Obviously voting No made things easier for the World order to keep us under their control but even if it was Yes they would eventually get their feet under our table and start pulling the strings again. If WWIII is near then who really cares what Scotland is / was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 So does this make the Independence vote irrelevant? Was always my small bit of doubt in the whole thing. Does it really matter in the long term if we're an Independent Scotland, part of Britain or a region of Europe? Obviously voting No made things easier for the World order to keep us under their control but even if it was Yes they would eventually get their feet under our table and start pulling the strings again. If WWIII is near then who really cares what Scotland is / was..... We will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Putin thwarted them with his diplomacy last time they wanted to bomb Syria. His punishment was Ukraine. In my opinion the Malaysian plane was shot down by the Ukrainians and had nothing to do with Russia, Putin or Ukrainian rebels. Like the chemical attack claims the speed and uniformity of the blame being put on Putin & Russia before any investigation was done tells you who was really responsible. The Russians can only interpret this one way...a propaganda assault leading to an attack. One advisor is openly talking about WWIII...This has been the pattern we have seen now for many years, lies followed by an attack. And now they are squaring up to Russia. They want full spectrum dominance. That is only going to end one way (IMHO). It's all in family as well, it was Robert Kagan who co-founded P-NAC and post-9/11 found an eye in the vice presidents office and his lies and propaganda got more traction than the actual CIA case workers (as shown in video above) . Victoria Nuland is his wife and it is her who's calls were leaked detailing their plan for Ukraine which came to pass. Weird that we have a husband and wife combo running propaganda networks in various parts of US Foreign policy while Father/son/possibly brother run president on republican side and husband and wife almost got it for democrats. Incidentally Kagan has now switched sides and is "advising" (handling?) Hilary's foreign policy now, just like he did with Bush. Here's what's going to happen, once Syria is fecked as we "accidentally" destroy all their infrastructure in getting to Al -Qeada, Al Nusra Free Syrian Army, ISIS sorry i mean Khorasan jihadi group, Israel will suddenly have another pre-text to go into Southern Lebanon again and fight Hezbollah, who weakened by all this bombing can't help hezbollah and then occupy the land as they see as greater Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It's all in family as well, it was Robert Kagan who co-founded P-NAC and post-9/11 found an eye in the vice presidents office and his lies and propaganda got more traction than the actual CIA case workers (as shown in video above) . Victoria Nuland is his wife and it is her who's calls were leaked detailing their plan for Ukraine which came to pass. Weird that we have a husband and wife combo running propaganda networks in various parts of US Foreign policy while Father/son/possibly brother run president on republican side and husband and wife almost got it for democrats. Incidentally Kagan has now switched sides and is "advising" (handling?) Hilary's foreign policy now, just like he did with Bush. Here's what's going to happen, once Syria is fecked as we "accidentally" destroy all their infrastructure in getting to Al -Qeada, Al Nusra Free Syrian Army, ISIS sorry i mean Khorasan jihadi group, Israel will suddenly have another pre-text to go into Southern Lebanon again and fight Hezbollah, who weakened by all this bombing can't help hezbollah and then occupy the land as they see as greater Israel. Yeah. Grim as fukk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So we have spent £xxx thousands blowing Joe Mangles ute. Fabulous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So we have spent £xxx thousands blowing Joe Mangles ute. Fabulous. LOL, bloody mongrels! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 oh look "Palestinian residents of Wadi Fukin in the occupied West Bank are appealing for international action to prevent Israel from stealing part of their village in one of the largest single Israeli land grabs in decades." http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/patrick-strickland/villagers-facing-massive-israeli-land-grab-urge-action-europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) . Edited October 1, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 oh look "Palestinian residents of Wadi Fukin in the occupied West Bank are appealing for international action to prevent Israel from stealing part of their village in one of the largest single Israeli land grabs in decades." http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/patrick-strickland/villagers-facing-massive-israeli-land-grab-urge-action-europe But wasn't Russia really evil recently for 'annexing' Crimea when the Crimeans overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in a democratic referendum? Whereas this is naked ethnic cleansing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11140860/Qatar-and-Saudi-Arabia-have-ignited-time-bomb-by-funding-global-spread-of-radical-Islam.html Qatar and Saudi Arabia 'have ignited time bomb by funding global spread of radical Islam' General Jonathan Shaw, Britain's former Assistant Chief of the Defence Staff, says Qatar and Saudi Arabia responsible for spread of radical Islam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I get the impression the air strikes are nothing more than a token contribution from the west. What they really want is for Turkey and Iran to do the dirty work. And it looks like the Turks border towns are being threatened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Putin thwarted them with his diplomacy last time they wanted to bomb Syria. His punishment was Ukraine. In my opinion the Malaysian plane was shot down by the Ukrainians and had nothing to do with Russia, Putin or Ukrainian rebels. Like the chemical attack claims the speed and uniformity of the blame being put on Putin & Russia before any investigation was done tells you who was really responsible. The Russians can only interpret this one way...a propaganda assault leading to an attack. One advisor is openly talking about WWIII...This has been the pattern we have seen now for many years, lies followed by an attack. And now they are squaring up to Russia. They want full spectrum dominance. That is only going to end one way (IMHO). Any evidence of that? You probably think that there are no Russian troops in Eastern Ukraine, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Any evidence of that? You probably think that there are no Russian troops in Eastern Ukraine, too. Alas I do not find you honest in your interactions on here so I am not wasting time with you. (Telling people what they probably think sums you up nicely though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Quite interesting... Is World War III on?http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/193340-isis-war-protests-us/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorbotnic Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Alas I do not find you honest in your interactions on here so I am not wasting time with you. (Telling people what they probably think sums you up nicely though.) In what respect am I not honest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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